Quill Sleeve Install!!!

[awb85]

I'm installing my new clutch. There's no quill sleeve installed but I am installing one with the new TOB.

I feel kind of stupid asking this, but which direction does the sleeve get installed in? (also, I can't really fit the sleeve over the end of the shaft at the moment — it's a very tight fit).

 

[SASHO91]

flat side towards trans....

alittle heat, and some pvc to slide over the sleeve helps.... just be careful.

 

[Yamaha V6]

It is supposed to be more of a press-fit, but not so much that you can't get it on without splitting it. I have seen a couple of aftermarket sleeves that were too small.

Red loctite the (3) tiny tabs / bottom of ******. ****** side goes toward the trans, bumps flush to the bottom surface.

A piece of PVC pipe & rubber mallet usually works very well. Just make sure you don't actually have a sleeve on there still.

 

[awb85]

what would people say to leaving the sleeve off and waiting for things to get a little bit more worn (maybe another 10k or 20k miles?).

I have three sleeves, and none of them fit. All i've managed to do so far is mar up the end of the shaft and the inside edge of the sleeve...

 

[93rev2sev]

Can you get a pic of the shaft and the sleeve?

 

[awb85]

Here are a few. Even with a little hammering the sleeve didn't want to go on much further than shown. I'm afraid of having it get stuck halfway on and having to cut it off with a cutting wheel...

 

[awb85]

whoops! sorry for the small size (even after clicking them) I got to figure out how to lower the quality of the pictures on this camera (the 35KB max is tough!!).

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

Is this a clutch kit? What kind of clutch is it?

We need more info.

Also, most TOB's come with their own specific quill sleeve. What TOB is this, or did it come with the clutch?

Im thinking that you got the wrong parts. Does the TOB slide over the quill sleeve?

 

[Racer X]

I ended up cutting my old one off with a cutting wheel on a dremel to get it off. Very, very shallow cuts until it began to split.

 

[awb85]

I ordered the CM Stage I, but I was gonna use the ceramic TOB from shonut that I ordered.

Both have the exact same quill sleeve (I have three new quill sleeves from 3 different places, and they are all made in Tiawan and have the same part#).

I was somewhat surprised not to see a quill sleeve on the shaft when I took the transmission off last night. But there's really not any wear on the shaft at all.

ADD: the TOB's fit nicely over the quill sleeves

ADD: my car has 124k on it if that counts for anything

 

[sdpatt]

I used a non-marring PVC pipe coupler that fit closely over the quill sleeve to press against the ****** during the sleeve's installation. It was a snug fit, but it slid on without damage. I wonder though, if the the three quills you have were part of a poorly made batch that didn't have the correct inside diameter.

 

[awb85]

I'll try putting the sleeve on again first thing tomorrow, but if I run into trouble I think I'll just leave it off for now and use one of the REV B bearings I have...

I had expected to have the clutch back up and on today...

 

[Off Road SHO]

We have come across extremely tight fitting quill tubes in the past. One took so much beating with a 3 pound sledge that we had to take turns due to exhaustion. We also mushroom'd the heck out of my .250 wall aluminum quill tube installation tool. I believe that some of the early trannies just had thicker aluminum tubes.

You might try taking some 160 grit sand paper and with a "shoe polishing" motion, polish the aluminum shaft till it very very clean. The three retaining tabs hold the sleeve onto the quill tube, even though there should be some friction during the fitment. If it's a loose fit, be sure to use Loctite green sleeve retainer to fill the voids.

Tom

 

[Shoaz]

You might try taking some 160 grit sand paper and with a "shoe polishing" motion, polish the aluminum shaft till it very very clean. The three retaining tabs hold the sleeve onto the quill tube, even though there should be some friction during the fitment. If it's a loose fit, be sure to use Loctite green sleeve retainer to fill the voids.

Ditto. It's not going to hurt anything to take some of the aluminum material off the tube area so that the quill sleeve fits. Sandpaper ought to do that pretty nicely.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Ditto. It's not going to hurt anything to take some of the aluminum material off the tube area so that the quill sleeve fits. Sandpaper ought to do that pretty nicely.

Tritto. The pre-sleeve era quills wear unevenly and form ridges that a sleeve can have a hard time getting over easily. Smooth it and you should be fine.

 

[awb85]

Cool. Well, I'll let everyone know how things turn out later tomorrow...

 

[93rev2sev]

Hope you read this first...take off the clutch fork before putting on the sleeve...oh well...he has 3 sleeves.

 

[awb85]

Yea, I'll take that back off...it'll make it easier for the sanding too. I just installed my new fork along with locktite yesterday — so it should be fun taking it back off!

 

[awb85]

EUREKA! Thanks to everyone. I spent about 10 or 15 min. sanding it lightly and trying to clean it up a bit. Managed to find some sleeve retainer at an auto store (they had 1 tube: mine had turned out to be empty).

Just got it hammered on — still a very tight snug fit, but much more manageable than before (it wouldn't budge!!)

I think I'll be making that donation to the forum when I'm done with this job....


Now back to installing a new clutch, suspension, and other stuff!

 

[RAYJAY]

just a question here ... has any noe tried to heat the sleeve up to expand it out ?
when I say heat you either warm it up in a toaster oven dry heat or in oil bath to get it about 200 deg+ , we install all of our press fit bearings this way. i just don't like beating on any thing that you can just slide on and not damage.

Jeff