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sillystring

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I bought my `95 ATX last Fall. I only drove it until the snow started flying and then I stored it for the Winter. It now has 89,000 miles on it.
From the time I bought the car it has run pretty good but always seemed maybe a bit slow. I always assumed that it was because I had owned 2 MTXs over the years and had just stepped away from a leased Mustang GT.

The SHO has always showed a CE light after hard acceleration but I never had it tested and the light always went out in about a minute. It had a bad oil leak which emitted a bad smell and had plug wells full of oil.
A few weeks ago, I bought upper gaskets, plugs, wires and assorted coolant and evap hoses to do an upper 60k. My friend helped me with the shim inspection which came out excellent. Before I took over we sprayed Gumout down the plug holes (with all the plugs out) and cranked the engine to clean the piston tops. I then changed the plugs with new Motorcraft, re-gasketed the head covers with new seals and thoroughly (and I mean thoroughly) cleaned the bundle of snakes on ther inside. 9 jumbo cans of Gumout. I cleaned out the IAC, throttle body, EGR ports and then installed new Motorcraft plug wires. Replaced heater hoses and the evap hose from the top of the engine to the throttle body. Topped the whole thing off with an oil change.

After re-assembling everything I started it up and it seemed to run good. Smoother idle than before. When I took it for a road test the check engine light was back only this time it goes on and off a lot more. I immediately drove the car up to the parts store to get the car scanned. they only did the KOEO and came up with 172 and 176 which are lean cylinder banks.
So after a little research here I looked for a vacuume leak with a spray bottle of water. Re-tightened everything but it still is the same and there just aren't any vacuum leaks. Then I cleaned the wire in the MAF which did nothing either. So now I'm really baffled.
Could it really be 2 bad 02 sensors? I remember my `94 MTX doing something similar and it was the o2 sensor. Am I missing something or do I really have to go spend $90.00 for an hour's worth of diagnostics from my local mechanic? I think the car dislikes me as the CD player just quit with a CD stuck in it. Hammertime? :frown:

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Well It very well could be 2 bad O2 sensors. And if you got oil and gum out down the cylinders more then likely you got it on the O2's when you cranked it. This won't do them any good. Its best to clean all that oil out of there before you remove the plugs.
 

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Actually I did get probably 90% of the oil out with a syringe and then rinsed with Gumout several times and syringed that out before I removed the plugs. So whatever went through the engine couldn't have been much because it lit right off and didn't smoke that much afterward.
 

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Well, if those o2's are original they are past their replacement time. Buy 2 new Bosch o2's at Autozone and put them in. You will most likely extinguish the o2 light and your car will drive much better. No need to have a mechanic charger to tell you that.

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I am presently shopping eBay for an OBD1 tool. It burns me that my Ranger pickup is a `99 and has OBD2. If one owns a SHO, one should own a code scanner... :oops:
 

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sillystring said:
I am presently shopping eBay for an OBD1 tool. It burns me that my Ranger pickup is a `99 and has OBD2. If one owns a SHO, one should own a code scanner... :oops:

walmart has them for the obd1 thin i paid only 20 bucks for the one i got it by innova electronics
web page is www.codereader.com


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OK, now the car has taken to bucking and surging in high gear with the CE light going on and off. :confused:

Have an Actron code scanner setup coming in the mail from eBay. Maybe then I can properly diagnose the problem(s).

I just am not going to throw parts at the car anymore nor can I afford to.

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Carb cleaner on O2's can contaminate them, especially if they're at the end of their expected lifespan.

You have known Lean Codes, which come on & go off as you're driving, correct? 99.9999% of the time, that's an O2 code. Replace the O2's and you're probably going to be in a much better place. Do it yourself, and the O2 costs will offset bringing it to a shop for sure (though I don't envy you doing the back O2 on an ATX - I always hate that.

Start with the known problems & work through those first before guessing further.
 

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Yamaha V6 said:
Carb cleaner on O2's can contaminate them, especially if they're at the end of their expected lifespan.

You have known Lean Codes, which come on & go off as you're driving, correct? 99.9999% of the time, that's an O2 code. Replace the O2's and you're probably going to be in a much better place. Do it yourself, and the O2 costs will offset bringing it to a shop for sure (though I don't envy you doing the back O2 on an ATX - I always hate that.

Start with the known problems & work through those first before guessing further.



know all about that got my wrist stuck doing mine :nut:

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