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A few weeks ago I found out someone removed the Anti-Lock bulb, I "borrowed " the one for the door ajar light, sure enough it is on all the time with car running. I checked the codes, I believe it's probably just wheel sensors, does anyone have the list of codes for Gen I ABS system? Could bad or dirty wheel sensor(s) shut down the whole system? Car has great brakes without the ABS working...'90 was the first year for ABS and I'm sure it had a lot of bugs. Is it even worht fixing/worrying about?
 

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More than likely it is a sensor that has indeed gone bad. And yes, one bad sensor shuts the whole system down. First just check the condition of the sensor wires and you might find that one is broken or sensor is dirty. Replacing a sensor is a PITA as they are tough to remove without destroying them. Sensors run about 40 bucks at rockauto.
 

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Sensors HAVE to be destroyed to get them out. Credit a lousy mounting configuration (the sensor is surrounded by cast iron in the knuckle and very exposed to the elements). But, of course, if it is bad, this is moot since you wouldn't care if you destroyed it. Though it can hurt your pocketbook when trying to do a '96 brake upgrade. DAMHIKT

I'd go so far as to doubt anyone has ever succesfully removed an ABS sensor on a tauri without destroying it, no matter where they lived.

Neat trick removing the bulb. I assume it was the previous owner???
 

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Uh, I've taken out and reused ABS sensors many, many times. I've never broken one removing it. They don't need to be destroyed when removed, you just need to be careful.
 

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Shoaz said:
Uh, I've taken out and reused ABS sensors many, many times. I've never broken one removing it. They don't need to be destroyed when removed, you just need to be careful.

I need to clarify one small thing here for my good buddy Eric. Sorry Eric.

Note the location of Eric's SHO vs the location of your SHO. I removed the sensor from my rustbelt 90, result: sensor destroyed. :frown: I replaced it with a used sensor that I extracted from a 100% arizona car result: wow that came out easy. :oops: Since the previous posters are from IL and WI (and I was from MI), I'm going to lean towards, you are going to have a tough time saving your sensor.

Now if we are talking about the condition of Arizona rubber seals and dashboards, well then I think we have ol' SHOaz beat. What color is your dashboard cover there Eric? :biggrin:
 

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Now if we are talking about the condition of Arizona rubber seals and dashboards, well then I think we have ol' SHOaz beat. What color is your dashboard cover there Eric? :biggrin:

No dashboard cover on my silver car over the eleven years I've owned it, and no cracks or fading, either. :biggrin:
 

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I have also removed ABS sensors, at the wheels, without destroying them. You have to be patient and use a good penetrating oil. Before replacing the sensor in the mounting hole I run a wire brush in the hole and put grease on the sensor to minimize the corrosion in the future. The wire brushes made for plumbing in 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch work well for cleaning out rusted holes. Cut the loop off of the brush and fit it into a drill and it does a great job.

Befor removing the sensors check the end that picks up the magnetic signal from the ABS "gear". Also check the gear for any cracks or a split in the rim where it fits around the drive shaft or axel. Now that you have the light working check for a code "flash". Count the flashes and get back to us. There are a number of the common ABS codes and problems discussed in prior threads.
 

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Wow. I tried on two spindles, and it was very very hopeless. I am amazed that sensors even in arizona cars would come free.

I still say the mounting configuration Ford decided on stinks. Encapsulating a sensor in cast iron is just dumb. The sensor housing is SS, as long as it had a solid place to bolt to and reference, and was mostly free to pull out (i.e. no ring of cast iron around it), then it would easy as cake. Piece of pie.

I agree with the anti-seize methods mentioned (which I do to everything...), but that doesn't help you if it is stock and never previously removed.
 

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