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Yes it ****** me off honestly that I couldn’t get my 60ft down. Best I did was a 1.69 which you know isnt horrible. But yes that 1.78 60ft 11.08...was the one if only the damn 60ft was in the high 1.6 range it was a done deal! I lowered tire pressure to 26-27 and it wasn’t really working then I put it back up to 30. The other limiting factor was my 5lb nitrous bottle didn’t last. I would have kept trying.

The day before when the DA was in the negative everyone was spinning. My first Pass at about 40mph my throttle cut out..and I let it recover...then went WOT to a 15 second pass! Next pass I spun off to the right slightly to an 11.380! So I looked forward to the warmer temps for Saturday and knew traction would be better...but just the starting line itself looked not as clean as normal. Like slightly mangled ...which is why I thought prep could have been better. I even tried launching off to the side where there were no tire tracks in it.

The power was there but traction killed the 10 spot. She is still alive so there still another chance! I’m hoping to try again soon or I’ll have to wait until next year! Damn I wish I had a 10 speed in it. The shifting right before the end ****** me off too. I did a log of the 11.08. Is it normal for gear to be commanded prior to shifting? I haven’t really taken a critical look at it before. Should gear command be at the actual shift point? In the log it looks like rpm and gear command resemble the horrible delay of the paddle shifters. It’s like I need to shift earlier somewhere so I’m not in the middle of the 4-5 at the end when that needs to be a good second or so of hard pulling through. Pretty cool though that all three of my 11.0’s were a new record. Thank God I didn’t beat Jordan by a 1000th! TBH a couple hundredths isn’t exactly awesome but I’ll take it. Lol you would think I would be satisfied ...must be how the platform keeps getting pushed...good is never good enough lol6329A4F4 4B62 4C9F 94CF B0D2E1B4C2A8
 

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I'm surprised you were running those radials so high pressure. I think when I went my 11.08 I was running like 20psi guess if traction is there it's no issue.
 

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I'm surprised you were running those radials so high pressure. I think when I went my 11.08 I was running like 20psi guess if traction is there it's no issue.
I wasn’t sure what to do. I had them at 30 last time I got the 1.66 and 1.68. So I thought I would start lower 26-27. And when that didn’t seem to work I went back to what worked before. At the end I did 4 hot laps. My son would call me after everyone run..Dad go again! Lol! Guess I just got frustrated and kept going in circles. Really I should have iced it down again and played with tire pressure again or even tried the fabled left lane that’s usually worse.

All in all I had fun and of course I’m happy about how everything worked out. I’m just itching for more still
 

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Hmmm, I have no ebrake physically connected since I have the tc wilwood kit...wonder if I just press the pedal down what would happen?
I like the idea of this ... but if I heard a snap I really wouldn’t be surprised. It really seems like a bad idea but only one way to find out...and no it’s not me lol
 

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I don’t know I’m just thinking I would hear something break.....purely speculating
So...if this is the case, then I wasn't aware, but does this mean, when the ebrake is "applied" (PCM sees ebrake switch activated), then it disables the RDU? Effectively making it FWD? That would be an interesting development as it would be a VERY easy apples-to-apples way to test out @High on Ethanol theory that these things would be faster in FWD-only mode. One run with ebrake depressed and in FWD mode (since I have no ebrake anyway, but would leave the regular brakes fully functional), another run in normal operation....
 

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So...if this is the case, then I wasn't aware, but does this mean, when the ebrake is "applied" (PCM sees ebrake switch activated), then it disables the RDU? Effectively making it FWD? That would be an interesting development as it would be a VERY easy apples-to-apples way to test out @High on Ethanol theory that these things would be faster in FWD-only mode. One run with ebrake depressed and in FWD mode (since I have no ebrake anyway, but would leave the regular brakes fully functional), another run in normal operation....

With traction, it should be faster due to reduced drivetrain loss. However since the majority of the loss is through the ptu, I'm not sure how much gain you would see. But it should be more than enough to see 10s.
 

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So...if this is the case, then I wasn't aware, but does this mean, when the ebrake is "applied" (PCM sees ebrake switch activated), then it disables the RDU? Effectively making it FWD? That would be an interesting development as it would be a VERY easy apples-to-apples way to test out @High on Ethanol theory that these things would be faster in FWD-only mode. One run with ebrake depressed and in FWD mode (since I have no ebrake anyway, but would leave the regular brakes fully functional), another run in normal operation....
I'm not an AWD Taurus owner, but I do not think that running one of those in FWD has any chance of beating one in AWD. The weight transfer to the rear takes away a lot of the launch traction of the fronts. Nick Chrimes' SuperSHO, IIRC 485 WHP, couldn't even use full throttle in first and often second at the drags. (Quaife LSD.) To be sure, he had ~600 lb less holding down the front tires which weren't wider than 245's.

And yes, Zach has made it into the 9's in a Gen II, ~1000 HP, stripped, a Quaife, and superwide drag tires, it's possible. I am open to learning that I am wrong.

If it's an electronic switch that disconnects the rears, why not program it into your ECU tune?
 

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I'm not an AWD Taurus owner, but I do not think that running one of those in FWD has any chance of beating one in AWD. The weight transfer to the rear takes away a lot of the launch traction of the fronts. Nick Chrimes' SuperSHO, IIRC 485 WHP, couldn't even use full throttle in first and often second at the drags. (Quaife LSD.) To be sure, he had ~600 lb less holding down the front tires which weren't wider than 245's.

And yes, Zach has made it into the 9's in a Gen II, ~1000 HP, stripped, a Quaife, and superwide drag tires, it's possible. I am open to learning that I am wrong.

If it's an electronic switch that disconnects the rears, why not program it into your ECU tune?
No one's been able to do it yet in the PCM/TCM or wherever that setting resides. And, to be clear, I personally can't buy into the theory that a FWD version will be faster than an AWD version...with 100% identical mods and setup. It's just a theory being postulated and worth verifying if it's possible. Just because I don't buy into doesn't mean I'm right...I could be wrong, but the math just doesn't add for me.
 

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I've seen videos of 4X4 trucks launching in 4WD and then after they start going switch to 2WD so there will be less drivetrain loss so more power to the ground.

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Switching to 2WD for burnout only but still launching in AWD may yield different results?
 

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I have the awd gauge on my cluster and I see it gives power to the rear during acceleration so its not cutting complete power to the rear, so we are still "technically" in awd mode.

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Btw, that AWD gauge, I've got it too, but wondering if there is a particular PID that is. I'd like to add it to my Torque Pro gauges if at all possible...
 
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