Need new rotors.. Better then the autozone special!!!!

[ShoGuy93]

Ok i have the Performance Friction Carbon Metallic brake pads all around.I don't really have a problem in the rear. But the fronts this is the 2 set of rotors i have went through in proablly 1 year i replaced them earlyer last year because they were warped and then i got them turned the secnd time because they were warped again. And the pads are still like brand new almost. So i'm sick of the 20 auto zone special rotor. What would be a good rotor to buy that would hold up against the hard pads i got? My buddy told me to look into bermbo rotors. What else is out there?

Thanks

 

[SHOTerror]

The problem isn't really the rotor, these cars have undersized brakes. It is a common problem and really the only fix is 1. Get the autozone deal with lifetime free replacements. Or 2. Upgrade to the later brakes, being either the 94 or 95(slightly larger but still not what they should be) or the '96 which will stop your car how it should have stopped from the factory.

<small>[ March 26, 2003, 01:53 AM: Message edited by: SHOTerror ]</small>

 

[Mr Anonymous]

You should also look at other factors that tend to warp the rotors like ensuring that the lug nuts are properly torqued in the proper order, break-in, and driving style. I'm also of the opinion that any time rotors are resurfaced or replaced that the pads should be replaced too despite how good they may 'look'.

Here's a thread from Scott P. (sdpatt) that is good reading on the subject: http://www.shoforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=19;t=000520#000001

 

[SHOZ123]

If the pads aren't wearing then they are glazed over and this may be the problem.

Here is some interesting reading on rotors and warping.

Warp Rotors

 

[stevetatro]

So, what causes brake pads to "glaze over" anyway? I've apparently had this happen to 2 of my 4 sets of PFCM pads.

Any ideas? Am I not breaking them in properly?

Thanks.

 

[ShoGuy93]

stevetatro:
So, what causes brake pads to "glaze over" anyway? I've apparently had this happen to 2 of my 4 sets of PFCM pads.

Any ideas? Am I not breaking them in properly?

Thanks.

Thats what i was about ready to ask.....

 

[SHOZ123]

How do you break them in? What I do is drive with the new pads for 100 miles avoiding heavy use. Then do 3 hard 60-0 mph stops in a row then let the rotors and brakes cool completely. I use Ford OEM pads and have not had any problems on my '97.

 

[svtman]

Why not buy factory brakes if you don't want to upgrade to the larger 96 brakes? They are probably better than the Autozone ones as my rotors have lasted 145K km on originals and I am replacing mine all around for $385 CDN (brakes and rotors) with Motorcraft. I'm not overly ******* my brakes so I expect they will be fine.

Dave

 

[Bizzy]

I think tirerack or discount tire direct sell brembo OEM replacement rotors. I got a pair of nice OEM ford rotors that were near perfect for $10.55 off ebay.

 

[DHMag]

A-Z also sells Brembo rotors. i have the A-Z Aimco rotors with PFCM pads and Fenco Reman calipers on the front, and am very happy with this setup without any problems

 

[shojuan]

netviper:
I think tirerack or discount tire direct sell brembo OEM replacement rotors. I got a pair of nice OEM ford rotors that were near perfect for $10.55 off ebay.

I got brand new Ford rotors, probably from the same guy, off of ebay also for my '89. They are nothing special. They didn't warp right away but they are warped right now. The only true solution is to upgrade your entire brake system. But if you're intent on not doing that but are still willing to spend a few dollars to try to fix the problem then try a set of cryo treated rotors. Also you might want to give the Hawk HPS pads a try. You can get those pads from tirerack. As was mentioned before make sure to torque your lugnuts evenly. You might also want to have your tires balanced "on the car" as soon after you install new rotors and pads as possible. I have it on good authority that rotors aren't perfectly balanced when new. This holds true even for expensive rotors.

 

[sdpatt]

When you install either new pads or rotors, you should be gentle on them for at least a few miles (100?) until the surfaces become fully mated. Neither the pads or rotors are perfectly flat and therefore do not contact over the entire pad area. This is especially true if you replace only the pads or rotors, but not both.

When the full pad area is not in contact with the rotor when you apply the brakes, the heat is dissipated over a smaller area and the pads are more easily glazed or the rotors are more easily warped. Be gentle on new pads and rotors and they will break in properly and last longer.

 

[stevetatro]

I guess the people I've heard screaming that you have to do some panic stops to 'bed' the pads properly were completely off base.

Thanks.

 

[89 Gary]

stevetatro:
I guess the people I've heard screaming that you have to do some panic stops to 'bed' the pads properly were completely off base.

Thanks.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~If you want to know how Baer recommends "bedding" in your new pads or rotors then I recommend you visit their site. The main reason to do this is to heat them in a series of steps for various reasons which they explain to you. They are the experts.http://www.baer.com/Support/TechTips.aspx?TechTipID=4

 

[billyshoe]

with old pads, a fifteen dollar rotor from china, the proceedure for new rotor break-in is: bring the temprature of the rotor up, by doing progressevly harder stops frequently and main tain a high(as high as you think they might ever get)temp. for a period of time continuing hard braking, then progressivly lessen the frequency and agressivness bringing down the temp. gradually. keep them turning. rotors don't warp from getting too hot, they warp & crack from cooling too fast& unequal cooling. You know of you heat up the brakes and then sit with you foot on the pedal it is going cool unevenly where the heat is trapped under the pad. DO NOT RIDE THE BRAKE. Replace the pads after the rotors have been seasoned in, and bring them up to temp and them allow to cool. this will evacuate most of the gas in the pad bonding agent leach out the pad surface that can cause gas-fade. this is the reason for bedding in the pad. if you use you're brakes in a civil manner, non of this is nessesary. Its my opinion that you are over driving the pathetic little brakes in this car. Are you concious of how much you use the brakes?