clappedout92
New Member
I apologize up front for the lengthy post, but I could use some help. I have a 120k '92 that's been fairly trouble-free the last 3-4 years (no, seriously!). Until a couple months ago, that is. At first I noticed the fuel mileage dropping pretty seriously, going from about 350 miles per tankful since new to around 240 or so now. Then the CE light starting coming on every day, on the way to and from work. The local Ford service dept. pulled the following codes:
KOEO: 111.10.173.176.177
KOER: 116.136
The 116 is dubious to me, as this car has been extremely cold-blooded all its life. I dropped the car off the evening before and I'm guessing the coolant temp wasn't high enough before running the EEC test.
They told me the MAF sensor was bad and offered a new one for $360 (which included $80 for the EEC test). By the way, the MAF sensor is a C&L 73mm unit installed by Doug Mellum at Performance Plus back in 1994. I declined and instead went home and cleaned the sensor with a Q-Tip doused in brake cleaner, per Doug's advice. The next day, no CE light. Terrific! But, and there's always a "but" with these cars it seems, the next day, at the exact same spot, the CE light came on as I was heading to work. Not wanting another $80 diagnostic charge, I bought my own code reader. Here is what I pulled myself:
KOEO: 111.10.176.528.542
KOER: 136.538
Based on what I've come across from searching the forum for specific codes, I'm inclined to ignore the 528, 542, and 538 for now, leaving the 176 and
136. These indicate to me that the O2 sensors are detecting lean conditions.
My questions are these:
1. Do I have bad O2 sensors?
2. Do I have a bad MAF sensor?
3. Do I have unmetered air in the system from a vacuum leak somewhere?
4. Do I have all three, and, God forbid, possibly more?
5. Or is it just not that simple?
The car starts and runs fine, has good pick-up, no stalling, no stumbling, no real driveability issues. Just the atrocious gas mileage and the CE light.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts anyone may have!
KOEO: 111.10.173.176.177
KOER: 116.136
The 116 is dubious to me, as this car has been extremely cold-blooded all its life. I dropped the car off the evening before and I'm guessing the coolant temp wasn't high enough before running the EEC test.
They told me the MAF sensor was bad and offered a new one for $360 (which included $80 for the EEC test). By the way, the MAF sensor is a C&L 73mm unit installed by Doug Mellum at Performance Plus back in 1994. I declined and instead went home and cleaned the sensor with a Q-Tip doused in brake cleaner, per Doug's advice. The next day, no CE light. Terrific! But, and there's always a "but" with these cars it seems, the next day, at the exact same spot, the CE light came on as I was heading to work. Not wanting another $80 diagnostic charge, I bought my own code reader. Here is what I pulled myself:
KOEO: 111.10.176.528.542
KOER: 136.538
Based on what I've come across from searching the forum for specific codes, I'm inclined to ignore the 528, 542, and 538 for now, leaving the 176 and
136. These indicate to me that the O2 sensors are detecting lean conditions.
My questions are these:
1. Do I have bad O2 sensors?
2. Do I have a bad MAF sensor?
3. Do I have unmetered air in the system from a vacuum leak somewhere?
4. Do I have all three, and, God forbid, possibly more?
5. Or is it just not that simple?
The car starts and runs fine, has good pick-up, no stalling, no stumbling, no real driveability issues. Just the atrocious gas mileage and the CE light.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts anyone may have!