is it my clutch or does it need some adjusting

[JoeCmpanelli]

ok so awhile back i told you all i was putting in a clutchmasters stage 1 clutch... well before i could guess what... diff right through the case of course so i bought a ttransmission. well i had the new trans put in along with the clutch. now this clutch has a 500 mile break in period. (i was good i only chirped the tires once while in break in mode.) ok so after 750 miles and a burnout to see if the clutch was good and SHOboy was it good! its now slipping apparantly not noticebly enough for the first mechanic who took a look at it but his boss was ****** he l;et me take the car. my question here is do you think the clutch could be burnt? heres wats going on and sorry for my writing style in advance... i let the clutch out and it doesnt catch until about 3cm from where the peddle rests. so in 4th gear doing 30 its pretty noticable that is slipping... my secondaries opened up at 40 in fourth and that aint right! my car has 150k on it and the motor is amazing. my second sho although first was an atx.

 

[shonuffmine]

yes there is a clutch adjustment

just sit in the car,hook your foot under the clutch pedal n pull up then on the pedal, then push it to the floor (some ppl say to pump the pedal 3 times ???) you should hear a click noise if it adjusted itself. the usual sign of a worn out pressure plate is a high pedal n slippage in lower rpms, P.S look in the little blue oweners book in the glove box,it tell you how to adjust the clutch cable slack as i told you how above. Is this the same joe campenelli outa lu 1124 boston that lives over by wocester,that pushes for APM??????

 

[JoeCmpanelli]

since it only has 750 miles on it i highly doubt that its the pressure plate. and it has been driving fine till this morning.

and no its not that joe....

amd am i supposed to have the car running when i do this? in gear or no? i have no owners manual

 

[shonuffmine]

engine off also try to find any 92 -95 taraus owners maual at junk yard,good to know which fuses to change n stuff

 

[JoeCmpanelli]

so i did what you say and no luck do i leave the car in first gear? i did not... are you hinting that it can be a fuse or just being otherly helpful?

when i pull up on the pedal it has nowhere to go doesnt move at all.......

 

[shonuffmine]

was just being helpful with the fuse comment,the book doesn,t say if it has to be out of gear,but i usually do put it in neutral also mine has never made a click noise ,making me think i might need a new cable soon which i will put on when i install the clutchsoon

 

[JoeCmpanelli]

im definitely thinking its the clutch cable myself..... its just that the clutch kit is so damn new and its a newer transmission i doubt i burnt the clutch i have been drivin like an old lady even refused to race my friend in his stock grand prix coupe lol he thinks he will win... anyways back to the subject with the clutch slipping i will only be doing more damage to it so i need to get this fixed A.S.A.P.

 

[tompumped]

I recently found out that my self adjuster wasn't working by accident while working on my car. There is a spring that hooks into a hole on the left side of the clutch pedal. Mine wasn't hooked in to the hole i'm talking about.

It's actually easy to take off the pedal and mechanism to inspect the operation. There was one bolt with a lock nut on the end for added protection.

 

[Racer X]

Either you have a bad adjuster quadrant, or a bad PP.

My money is on the quadrant. The repair kit it still available at the dealer, but be forewarned...

...that thing is a PAIN IN THE ASS to replace.

*edit*
I take that back... did the mechanic use red loctite on the flywheel and PP fasteners?

 

[JoeCmpanelli]

well i took a look at the clutch adjuster it looked fine but who knows the car has been at the mechanic since my last post they took offense when i mentioned loctite... something about its not the first clutch they put in all im thinking is everybody makes mistakes but he thinks he can tell me if the clutch is burnt without dropping the trans.... i myself dont think thats possible but hey whatever ..... i have another wuestion though what is the liklihood of burning a clutch like the one i have in as many miles of driving it that i have

 

[JoeCmpanelli]

just called the shop that is working on my car. they tell me its burnt, they say they didnt have to drop the case to see. is this possible? my other question is can i buy just a clutch disk without a pp seeing as it is so new(700miles)?

 

[TYSHO]

Well, anyone can say it's burnt because you had the disc slip. The question is, what's causing the problem and was it present since day one? Because, if you keep slipping the clutch, it will slip no matter what until you replace it. You'll also need your flywheel resurfaced.

Who installed your last clutch kit? I'd be worried if a shop did that used the old style TOB and took off your quill sleeve, causing the TOB to bind up on release and not give the clutch a full release.

 

[JoeCmpanelli]

the clutch felt good when it was done, its a local shop that does all the work on my cars. they put the whole transmission and clutch assembly in. i will be going down there on friday to take a look at whats going on. not sure if i even want to spend another $800 dollars for the clutch kit and the labor just yet so the sho might be on the back burneer untill i swap my sebring motor at the end of october. whatever the case ill let you guys know.

 

[TYSHO]

Have them make sure the dowel pins in the flywheel are not too long and preventing the pressure plate from bolting up to the flywheel fully. This will result in a slipping clutch no matter what you try without fixing the problem by grinding down the dowels. This is a big problem in aftermarket flywheels, Fidanza, and can potentially be a problem now with Ford dowels no longer being easy to come by and using generic applications in the SHO.

 

[JoeCmpanelli]

the shop i had it at wasnt even trying to hear that they may have made a small mistake. i now have my car at a shop that specializes in transmissions. he is a friend of the family and i ddont know why i didnt have him do it in the first place. ill let you know what happens. thanks for the advice to all who offered it.:thankyou:

 

[tompumped]

That's too bad that they didn't take care of you, if they ran a reputable business they would've taken care of you.
Maybe it was out of the warranty period (time wise) if they even did offer one? Even so
I don't think i'd want to go back to them anyway.

 

[shobote]

NESHO is where I would have taken it; these cars are rarely worked on by most shops.

 

[SHOMON]

x2 on NESHO

 

[JoeCmpanelli]

so the transmission shop called me.... its my clutch. apparently the shop who put the trans and clutch in didnt have my flywheel resurfaced. we talked about replacement clutches and he is recommending the LUK clutch. he is under the impression that its pretty heavy duty and said there is another one made by them that is considered overkill. i think i need overkill since i am going to superchardge this SHO. the only reason im entertaining his idea is the fact he offers a warantee if i let him get the clutch but none if i buy it on my own. i hear you on the whole NESHO thing. i live in lynn mass though so its not around the corner and the tow truck would cost more than the clutch. i am buying another SHO from a very nice lady that my mother is in college with and she had her transmission done by the same shop i have doing mine now. the guy who owns the place has oened his own SHO before and already has been griping about the same things we all dont appreciate about this car (mostly the cramped conditions) i dont really cxare though thats what im paying him for.

 

[TYSHO]

LUK is a good clutch, and the "overkill" clutch he speaks of would not be something you want in a S/C'd SHO. Matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet there is not a S/C'd SHO out there running with one...