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Hi, I’ve been researching and trying to figure out how I’m going to go about some modifications and man there’s so much information it’s confusing. I’m thinking of a tune and I’m confused on which one to go with. I’m far from being wealthy so this is something I have to save for and I’m sure it will take me some time to be able to order one. That being said I’m trying to educate myself but need some advice, I’ve come across what seems to be the tune for me. Not sure if I can say the name or not so I’ll wait for replies on that. I’d like to plug and play, I’m better at tie rods and ball joints than computers, so uploading is an option but would be difficult for me. If someone wants to steer me in the right direction I’d appreciate it, new to the forum so I’m sure this has been gone over and over but technology changes and for me it’s confusing. I have and will continue to research so you guys know I’m not looking to be spoon fed. Just don’t want to waste time and money when the experience of you long time members can and would be utilized if possible. Thank you.
 

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Tune, intercooler and downpipes. Those are the biggest power adders and the tune makes the car alot more better drive. You will feel it instantly with no other mods. Itll go from 290hp at the wheels to probably above 400whp. And torque will be over 500ftlb with 3 mods
 

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93 tune with T stat plugs and a 3 bar map (some tuner use a 2.5 bar) will make it the best bang for the buck. If you can find someone to tune it to e30 with the stock hpfp this is the most power you can get for the least money. most 93 tunes are close to plug and play and E30 will require logs tho.
 

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95% of customers are perfectly happy with the Starter Packs most tuners offer. For ours, it comes out of the box with 335hp/380tq to the wheels assuming optimal mechanical operation, and after datalogging and optimization we see 380hp/430tq with no other modifications, which gets the car to 12.5-12.6 on 93 Octane.

You can purchase it here:

https://www.ortizperformance.com/pr...-power-pack-2010-taurus-sho-flex-explorer-mks
 

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95% of customers are perfectly happy with the Starter Packs most tuners offer. For ours, it comes out of the box with 335hp/380tq to the wheels assuming optimal mechanical operation, and after datalogging and optimization we see 380hp/430tq with no other modifications, which gets the car to 12.5-12.6 on 93 Octane.

You can purchase it here:

https://www.ortizperformance.com/pr...-power-pack-2010-taurus-sho-flex-explorer-mks
Those numbers seem quite out there. Do you have anything to back them up? The only cars I can find that run 12.69 on 93 from Ortiz have a minimum of an aftermarket intake, and all three examples I could find were also recorded on tracks with considerable downhill slopes.
 

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Those numbers seem quite out there. Do you have anything to back them up? The only cars I can find that run 12.69 on 93 from Ortiz have a minimum of an aftermarket intake, and all three examples I could find were also recorded on tracks with considerable downhill slopes.

Most people seem to think an intake doesn't help so I didn't factor it into the claims, but yes most had an Airaid CAI.

These are both "out of the box" comparison tunes. No other modifications just power pack:

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This customer is 93 tune only with datalogged revisions. Unfortunately this was a dyno day at Titan Motorsports and the owner was driving all cars so not sure what he did. Assuming they punched it in driveba it downshifted and inverted torque, but the horsepower peak is correct. If you interpolate the good data to remove the poor, you come out right about 430tq.

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K&N found a difference and they are a widely trusted company. Same people who say the 12hp difference of a cold air intake isnt anything are the same people who have the 6-8hp adding msd coils.
Msd coils aint needed or cold air intake aint needed. Screw it. Buy both. 20hp at least

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Depending on the age of the car, I'd throw a set of hot pipes and noise maker delete pipe in the mix to eliminate boost leaks. Noise maker delete at the minimum is probably money better spent than a CAI up front, and change the PTU/RDU fluids. Make it bullet proof before fast.
 

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Most people seem to think an intake doesn't help so I didn't factor it into the claims, but yes most had an Airaid CAI.

These are both "out of the box" comparison tunes. No other modifications just power pack:

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This customer is 93 tune only with datalogged revisions. Unfortunately this was a dyno day at Titan Motorsports and the owner was driving all cars so not sure what he did. Assuming they punched it in driveba it downshifted and inverted torque, but the horsepower peak is correct. If you interpolate the good data to remove the poor, you come out right about 430tq.

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Ok so the answer to 12.5-12.6 1/4 miles tune-only on 93 octane is no. And the "proof" of 380 whp is a single dyno sheet that you yourself say is suspect and only shows 368 hp uncorrected (353 hp corrected). And while I don't particularly have any issue with the 430 lb-ft figure, I'm curious how you're interpolating between an entire set of values that are < 400 to arrive at a value of 430. I'm sorry for calling it out Lee, but if you claim like 40 peak horsepower more than every other shop you should really have something more substantive. C'mon, man!

I have >300 logs myself, the majority of which are full pulls and include Ford's extensively researched and developed torque model for the engine. Between my own results as well as the offerings of all the other tune shops you'd have a really really hard time convincing me Luis is producing anywhere near the 470 flywheel horsepower it takes to put down 380 to the wheels on Secret Sauce alone.
 

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Ok so the answer to 12.5-12.6 1/4 miles tune-only on 93 octane is no. And the "proof" of 380 whp is a single dyno sheet that you yourself say is suspect and only shows 368 hp uncorrected (353 hp corrected). And while I don't particularly have any issue with the 430 lb-ft figure, I'm curious how you're interpolating between an entire set of values that are < 400 to arrive at a value of 430. I'm sorry for calling it out Lee, but if you claim like 40 peak horsepower more than every other shop you should really have something more substantive. C'mon, man!

I have >300 logs myself, the majority of which are full pulls and include Ford's extensively researched and developed torque model for the engine. Between my own results as well as the offerings of all the other tune shops you'd have a really really hard time convincing me Luis is producing anywhere near the 470 flywheel horsepower it takes to put down 380 to the wheels on Secret Sauce alone.

We've still had plenty that have hit 12.6s without a CAI, then 12.3 with downpipes and 12.0s with E30 and downpipes. We just had a fella in Houston run 11.87 on our E50 tune with a cai and downpipes.

The downside to being a Mustang tuner in the SHO world is the lack of AWD dyno access. All of our customers are street tuned and while we have thousands of datalogs that we've converted to Virtual Dyno logs to get an idea of what the car is doing, we don't use that information for sales. Most of our customers don't care about dyno numbers, kinda surprising that we've even offered to pay and yet they aren't interested.
 

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We've still had plenty that have hit 12.6s without a CAI, then 12.3 with downpipes and 12.0s with E30 and downpipes. We just had a fella in Houston run 11.87 on our E50 tune with a cai and downpipes.

The downside to being a Mustang tuner in the SHO world is the lack of AWD dyno access. All of our customers are street tuned and while we have thousands of datalogs that we've converted to Virtual Dyno logs to get an idea of what the car is doing, we don't use that information for sales. Most of our customers don't care about dyno numbers, kinda surprising that we've even offered to pay and yet they aren't interested.

I agree. There is too much inconsistency in dynos, no point in splitting hairs. They're all great numbers regardless and your tune sounds sure to please.
 

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Year? Miles? Performance pack or not?


If it were my car, I would do the catch can first, then drill and tap the PTU is it needs it, and change fluids.


1,000hp car that doesn't run is way slpower than a 90 go car.
 

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D6E478F5 81AD 4064 A325 E6DC02FBF358 The year is 2010, I don’t believe it has a performance package. I’ve got the window sticker and it’s not on there and I have a full size spare. It’s red so I’m sure it’s the fastest color, lol and I’m sure all the red SHO owners will agree.
 

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View attachment 16649 The year is 2010, I don’t believe it has a performance package. I’ve got the window sticker and it’s not on there and I have a full size spare. It’s red so I’m sure it’s the fastest color, lol and I’m sure all the red SHO owners will agree.

Nice, keep it pretty. I havent seen a well taken care of 010 in awhile thats hasnt been modified
 

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View attachment 16649 The year is 2010, I don’t believe it has a performance package. I’ve got the window sticker and it’s not on there and I have a full size spare. It’s red so I’m sure it’s the fastest color, lol and I’m sure all the red SHO owners will agree.
Does it have a service record?


I'd source out and buy your fluids...ATF (mercon v), motor oil (5w30...actually...2010...is 5w20, I think...Castrol gtx), gear oil (redline lightweight Shock proof), and coolant (amsoil hd).

Those are what I use. Check on that motor oil weight, I think it changed after 2013. And last, drill and tap that PTU.
 

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