I got codes....

[Striker32]

i have a 93 sho atx

KOEO codes i get:
565
332
10

Initial cold start:
30

Initial Hot start:
60

While driving:
10

 

[kevinspann]

You don't have a code 30,60, or 10.

How did you read the codes?

 

[Striker32]

with an eqqus 3145
http://www.equus.com/Product/3145/Digital-Ford-Code-Reader-(1981-1995)

and yes i do have these codes becuase that is what the scanner read to me

 

[kevinspann]

That's fantastic, but those dont exist and your code reader is wrong

 

[Striker32]

It is obvious that you know everything, so here is a link to prove you wrong

http://www.shophoenixproject.com/eec/eec.htm

(insert foot in mouth)

 

[Striker32]

Could i actually get some real help on this forum, instead of this so called banter

 

[Striker32]

565 is Canister Purge 1 solenoid/circuit failure - Solenoids
332 is EGR did not open/respond during test or if memory code, did not open intermittantly - EVR or PFE

so what does this mean for me, do i have to replace the canister and egr
also i have cylinder problems
would changing the spark plugs and wires help or.....

 

[SHOdded]

From the Phoenix site:

Engine Code List: Two Digit Codes (89-91 SHO)
Engine Code List: Three Digit Codes (92-95 SHO)

What actual driveability problems are you experiencing? If you could provide more detail, that would be helpful. Sometimes the codes do not point directly to the culprit.

For example, what do you mean by cylinder problems? do you have loss of power, are you not getting spark, low on compression, etc.

 

[Striker32]

I am not sure on how to check for compression

well i did the initial start test and i got the cylinder blanace codes 30 60 and 10

Decrease in gas mileage i guess, but i cant really tell becuase i am heavy footed.

Some sluggish shifting

would you reccomend a tune up?

replace O2 sensor, plugs and wires

what else should i replace?

 

[kevinspann]

i have a 93 sho atx

Engine Code List: Two Digit Codes (89-91 SHO)

So, your 93 should only have three digit codes. Also, note that none of the 2 or 3 digit codes end in zero. A common way to read codes is jumping the EEC test connector with a paper clip to flash the CEL, so a zero in the code number would make it unreadable.

http://www.shophoenixproject.com/eec/eec.htm

Your 332 and 565 codes are valid - ATX's have issues with the DPFE and the EGR passages getting clogged.

You never stated that the 10, 30, and 60 codes were from the cylinder balance test, just that you had those codes.


Compression would need to be checked with a compression tester, which is basically a gauge with a hose that screws in, in place of a spark plug. Crank the engine over a few times to get a reading (Either unplug the DIS so it doesn't start, or just remove the intake so that you can do all 6).

Testers can be bought or possibly rented from a place like Autozone.


Have the plugs and wires ever been changed to your knowledge? Is there oil in the spark plug wells? How many miles on the car?

 

[Striker32]

Im having a hard time getting any code to come on when the scanner is plugged in while the car is in motion, check engine light will come on when scanner is not on

 

[Striker32]

So, your 93 should only have three digit codes. Also, note that none of the 2 or 3 digit codes end in zero. A common way to read codes is jumping the EEC test connector with a paper clip to flash the CEL, so a zero in the code number would make it unreadable.

http://www.shophoenixproject.com/eec/eec.htm

Your 332 and 565 codes are valid - ATX's have issues with the DPFE and the EGR passages getting clogged.

You never stated that the 10, 30, and 60 codes were from the cylinder balance test, just that you had those codes.


Compression would need to be checked with a compression tester, which is basically a gauge with a hose that screws in, in place of a spark plug. Crank the engine over a few times to get a reading (Either unplug the DIS so it doesn't start, or just remove the intake so that you can do all 6).

Testers can be bought or possibly rented from a place like Autozone.


Have the plugs and wires ever been changed to your knowledge? Is there oil in the spark plug wells? How many miles on the car?

Cyinder Balance Codes


10 Problem with cylinder 1
20 Problem with cylinder 2
30 Problem with cylinder 3
40 Problem with cylinder 4
50 Problem with cylinder 5
60 Problem with cylinder 6
9 No Problems

There is this at the bottom of the page, i thought giving the 2 digit code was a dead give away

 

[kevinspann]

Cyinder Balance Codes


10 Problem with cylinder 1
20 Problem with cylinder 2
30 Problem with cylinder 3
40 Problem with cylinder 4
50 Problem with cylinder 5
60 Problem with cylinder 6
9 No Problems

There is this at the bottom of the page, i thought giving the 2 digit code was a dead give away

Nah, but no problem. Sorry for being a dick.


Does the car have a misfire, or is it just kinda lame feeling?

I'd pull the front bank of plugs and see how they look.

 

[SHOdded]

On a side note, I found it very helpful to search these forums for the codes and their respective resolutions. A sample thread:

http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=95046&highlight=565

11 pages returned for code 332, 2 pages for 565! Yay, shoforum!

 

[Striker32]

so replace the egr?

 

[zoomlater]

Before buying any parts, try cleaning the two small EGR tubes below the DPFE sensor. I was getting the same EGR codes and a check engine light. I first tried cleaning the long passage below the intake manifold first. That didn't help. I next tried using pipe cleaners soaked in carb cleaner to clean out those two tiny tubes as far down as possible. My check engine light went away after that. There are writes up on how to deal with EGR codes on this forum and on the Shotimes site.

 

[Striker32]

Im having a hard time getting any code to come on when the scanner is plugged in while the car is in motion, check engine light will come on when scanner is not on

what do i do about this?

 

[Striker32]

what do i do about this?

Does anyone know?