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[Toolman]

you see there toolman... i like to break stuff... it gives me a challange... plus it gives me something to do...

If you want something to do, a challenge, how about building something that makes a lot of power and DOESN't BREAK. To me, that is more of a challenge than starting with a platform that you know will not support over a certain amount of power, then fixing what you broke.

there have been cars that i have built trying to break them with no success so hopefully this will be one of them

I hope so, as these engines continue to get more scarce.

 

[thecrew2999]

im with tim.. its silly to wanna break something thats becoming rare.

**** how many muscle car guys do you see running down the street hitting shit and what not?

you wanna blow something up make sure its 100% ford first

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

im with tim.. its silly to wanna break something thats becoming rare.

**** how many muscle car guys do you see running down the street hitting shit and what not?

you wanna blow something up make sure its 100% ford first

wow old post brought back ... heres some food for thought, how does one find the limets of something without an expamle to follow, or with out crossing the limets first? if one does not know what the limet is then how does one take full advantage of something without knowing such info? i am here to test the limets of what i have and once the limets have been found then i can work on that as something to go by when building a final product, whats the point in getting huge injectors and what not if you are not gonna use them? it saves time and money if you know exactly what the limets are of what you have. if the stock sho inturnals can take x amount of power and you make less than that power figure and you have "upgraded" inturnals then that my friend is wasted money on such an upgrade that is not needed. to me this makes perfect sence.

 

[Toolman]

BUT WE KNOW THE LIMITS ALREADY!!!! We know the limits of the stock internals, we know the limits of the MAF, we know the limits of the injectors, we know the limits of nearly every facet of the stock SHO. To blow stuff up in the name of 'research' is ludicrous when we already know its limits.

 

[SASHO91]

to back Tim up some (You don't need it Tim; but I want in on this), even if we did not know the limits from previous "research", there are still formula's and what not to find the limits of stock parts.
So instead of doing your "research", which is basically-build it till it blows, why don't you do some REAL research, punch some numbers into a calculator and build accordingly.

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

BUT WE KNOW THE LIMITS ALREADY!!!! We know the limits of the stock internals, we know the limits of the MAF, we know the limits of the injectors, we know the limits of nearly every facet of the stock SHO. To blow stuff up in the name of 'research' is ludicrous when we already know its limits.

well sorry tool man but in my book iv already past what you guys call the limets of the fuel system and maf.... and no ones stated what the stock internals can take i have yet to see anyone post numbers at which the rods broke or piston shattered... i can garrenty that iv gone past the "factory limets" of the fuel system a while ago... but i still have head room explain this to me ole mighty tool man. iv respected your work maybe you should try respecting mine. iv done what lots have said "Wont Work" with a 100% success rate thus far... plus a sho aint nothing special. its a freaking tuarus with a boat motor cramed in it... big whoop. the only reason why i choice to turbo my sho is well for one its damn slow stock... and for 2 the engine has potential i had years in research before i even owned a sho.. why dont you mr know it all make a bloody STICKY with ALL of the info You just said is already known.... huh? well why dont you go do that then if you say its known already. prove me wrong with more than just one instance of the each fact... i wanna see atleast 3 ppl who broke at a certian power figure.... i wanna see 3 instances for everything you stated thats "already known" can you do that? if not then your full of shit. didi i ever say how much i hate this site and almost everyone on here???

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

to back Tim up some (You don't need it Tim; but I want in on this), even if we did not know the limits from previous "research", there are still formula's and what not to find the limits of stock parts.
So instead of doing your "research", which is basically-build it till it blows, why don't you do some REAL research, punch some numbers into a calculator and build accordingly.

iv done the numbers punching thing for teh fuel system and have came up with my own numbers on what is left in the stock fuel system.... now i dont see how its posible to "punch numbers" to find the limets of the rods pistons and what not. u tell me how you can even get a number to use to add up or what ever to find the breaking point? where do you get this number from? i dont see it posible. now for thinsg like fuel system and maf and what not yes i knwo how to do taht crap and iv already done it before i even thought about putting a turbo on my car. i love how you guys find one guy to pick on and you gang up like a bunch of blood thirsty leaches that havent had a drop of blood in months! i know when im right and if im wrong ill admit to it. this is just silly im getting ***** on 2 threads sofar wtf. cant we alll just get along? why dont you guys OPEN YOUR ******* MINDS UP A LIL BIT FOR ONCE! and hear what someone else has to say and not be so blood stubern about shit... think out of the box for once.

 

[SASHO91]

Don't like it? Leave....
Simple as that... YOUR'E the one coming back and posting. We don't have a gun to your head and a piece of paper in your hand forcing you to read what's on it.

If you cannot take the constructive critisism that we are trying to give, well, you have a rough road ahead of you if you keep putting in half-ass'd work into something. (Let alone a SHO... and your'e posting it here)

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

Don't like it? Leave....
Simple as that... YOUR'E the one coming back and posting. We don't have a gun to your head and a piece of paper in your hand forcing you to read what's on it.

If you cannot take the constructive critisism that we are trying to give, well, you have a rough road ahead of you if you keep putting in half-ass'd work into something. (Let alone a SHO... and your'e posting it here)

iv tried to ******* leave i asked the webmaster to delete my account a long time ago... but did he do it? no! and my work is not half assed its done on a 0 money budget. theres a diffrence there buddy... if i had money to buy bends and buy everything else i would of made a very nice setup... but i had no money to put ffood in my stumic yet alone money to buy parts for a car. i did what most cant do... i worked with what lil i had and i made it work. the whole point of putting a turbo on a car is to make it faster no? well i made mine a heck of alot faster than it was stock so in my book what i did served its purpose. i didnt build it to show... i built it to function to prove what can be done with lil or no money back in the days ppl would be proud of anyone who could do what i did with what lil i had.

 

[SASHO91]

Your account doesn't have to be deleted... you can just stop clicking on the "Submit Post" button.

Everything I have said has been IMO. With that said, im not trying to knock you or your turbo car. It's just that I would have put alittle more time into it. Especially with this community looking at it in every detail.
I think it's great that you built a running turbo sho(with such a limited buget/time period).That says alot about your dedication to a project.. but, will I back it up and say that it's a great preforming SHO with a decent setup? No. But then again, that's not what it's purpose was intended for.

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

Your account doesn't have to be deleted... you can just stop clicking on the "Submit Post" button.

Everything I have said has been IMO. With that said, im not trying to knock you or your turbo car. It's just that I would have put alittle more time into it. Especially with this community looking at it in every detail.
I think it's great that you built a running turbo sho(with such a limited buget/time period).That says alot about your dedication to a project.. but, will I back it up and say that it's a great preforming SHO with a decent setup? No. But then again, that's not what it's purpose was intended for.

ill tell you that it preforms way better than i had ever expected... is it a decent setup? hmm thats a tough one... probably not... its sub optimal in most aspects but as stated before i had 7 days to build it thats the time the city allowed me to have it apart. i only post on here cuz id think ppl would love to see what the sho's capable of and how easy it is done and how cheaply it can be done. i personaly want to see more turbo sho's on the road thats why i submit my lil bit of data so others dont have to be intimadated by the "cost" and how "hard it is" to put a turbo on our cars. when i first started viewing this site everyone said its imposible to turbo a sho. with what info i had back then i didnt see why it was imposible you can turbo a freakin lawn mower if you wanted too (iv seen it done)lol... i understand what you have said is just your opinion but iv stated many times before that this is not a perfect setup that its done on a homeless mans budget. if i had money it would be WAY diffrent in all aspects thats for sure. then again if i had money id have a t71 turbo and not a 16g oh wait i have a t71 turbo hmmm what should i put that on

 

[Off Road SHO]

its a freaking tuarus with a boat motor cramed in it... big whoop.

Well... that statement right there just cleared up a lot of the questions I had about your posts, at least for me it did.

Tom

 

[Shoaz]

While he does seem to be a little behind the curve in the technical areas, I think he can do whatever he pleases with his motors. Personally, I draw the line where there's a possibility of endangering others on the road, but if he just wants to blow up motors on the strip or on the dyno, more power to him. They're his, he can do what he wants with them.

That doesn't stop anybody from posting their opinion here, though, which is also great (unless it's deemed to be "killing a new idea", then it's very, very bad).

Or so I'm told.

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

Well... that statement right there just cleared up a lot of the questions I had about your posts, at least for me it did.

Tom

id have more respect for the sho if it was RWD instead its wrong wheel drive.. makes its speed potential much less.. tho i am intregued by the ppl who have put this motor in a rwd setup.. but to me its just a family sadan... heavy and underpowered. now that shopazz swap is much more like it should of been from teh factory... smaller car with the sho motor in it. imo the 3.8 is a much better choice since its a pretty torquey motor, or hey what about the 3.6l stroker??? that would be neat. a sho motor with tq number to boot!.

 

[SHOKING91]

pls stop

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

While he does seem to be a little behind the curve in the technical areas, I think he can do whatever he pleases with his motors. Personally, I draw the line where there's a possibility of endangering others on the road, but if he just wants to blow up motors on the strip or on the dyno, more power to him. They're his, he can do what he wants with them.

That doesn't stop anybody from posting their opinion here, though, which is also great (unless it's deemed to be "killing a new idea", then it's very, very bad).

Or so I'm told.

where did this whole endangering others idea come to play? i never said i was gonna endanger anyone. and me behind the curve in the technical areas? i think not im not trying to argue im just saying when it comes to Anything technical i know my stuff. im just trying to find out how far i can push this motor before something gives.... sofar iv made more power than my aftermarket clutch can handel and the clutch was the weakest link.... thats Not exactly what i was looking for when it comes down to something giveing way..... but it gives me an idea to the kinda of power i am makeing which makes me happy and ****** at the same time lol.

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

pls stop

no sir..... whats hp with out torque? Nothing more than a number. again another reason why i turboed mine... the turbo adds to the tq numbers down low, gives it the feel of a bigger motor

 

[SASHO91]

makes its speed potential much less..

what?!?!!? I..I. I mean..... ah forget it.....

heavy and underpowered.

Heavy? It's not THAT heavy. Underpowered? Uh, no.

where did this whole endangering others idea come to play? .

When you said that you wanted to push this car past the limits. it's going to happen somewhere.... and when it does, there is a good chance something else can happen.

sofar iv made more power than my aftermarket clutch can handel and the clutch was the weakest link.... thats Not exactly what i was looking for when it comes down to something giveing way..... but it gives me an idea to the kinda of power i am makeing which makes me happy and ****** at the same time lol.

Again, you cannot use that as means to confirm your'e making XXXtq.

 

[SHOKING91]

pls stop, it hurts my eyes

 

[Power Surge]

my work is not half assed its done on a 0 money budget.

News flash.... trying to build a turbocharged performance car with no money, IS half assed.

I can DEFINITELY appreciate you building your car up, there is no question of that. But frankly, the backwoods shoddy work just makes you and your project look bad. And then trying to justify not spending money on the project with lame excuses like you're just "testing the limits" of everything, makes you look like even more of a fool.

This is not meant to be offensive towards you Bob, it's just what I, and probably most of the other members here, see when we look at your posts on your car.