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FOSHO94

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Got some issues, when i start my car in the morning, or after it has been sitting for awhile, it will idle fine, then, try to step on the gas it just bogs, like, the rpms drop, and I can hear a knockig sound, I think its the trans doing that not sure, also, it hesitates on take off, and I can only push the gas down so far, b4 theres no power, just does nothing, and the engine sounds kinda hollow, also, sometimes I can smell gas like its leaking, but, it never shows on the ground or anything, I have replaced fuel filter, air filter, plugs and wires are new, cleaned out the MAF, not sure whats goin on here.....
 

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what octane do you run in it? have you cleaned your IAB? because i think i read before that a sticky IAB can cause hesitation when you romp on the gas. let us know and well do the best we can.
 

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To me it sounds like an ignition problem. You might want to check your plugs, wire, etc. I had a Camry that did this, the plug wire boot was shot and was not making contact with the spark plug, every so often I had to pusht the boot down so I could get a spark.
 

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I run 91 octane in it. I thought it was more of a fuel problem I guess, that the engine might be starved for fuel when I stomp on the gas.
 

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Check your coolant temp sensor, a friend of mine has a mustang that would do the same thing you are describing. It also made a hollow sound and smelled like gas. It took ford 3 days to diagnose the problem. The temp sensor would read fine, then all of the sudden would drop as if it were -20 degrees. That threw off the computer and would start acting up.Good luck!
 

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When the ECT or coolant temp sensor goes bad on these cars, it will cause the computer to make the car run rich. This will not make your car have hesitation. In fact the a bad ECT will make the car run really hot and delay the fan turn on.

<small>[ January 05, 2003, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: yamahaSHO ]</small>
 

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well my car runs at normal temp, but, I was thinking this could be a problem like fuel injectors or something, maybe the pump.
 

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FOSHO94:
well my car runs at normal temp, but, I was thinking this could be a problem like fuel injectors or something, maybe the pump.
If you think it is fuel related try

-the pump
-filter
-cleaning injectors

otherwise I say check over the ignition system.

Have you tried putting in the stock MAF??

<small>[ January 05, 2003, 11:29 PM: Message edited by: yamahaSHO ]</small>
 

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I had EXACTLY the same problem. My 89 would start and idle, but upon application of throttle the engine would bog and die immediately. I also thought it was ignition, and wasted my time replacing plugs/wires and such. I ignored the codes which were telling me that I had a bad O2 and ECT sensors because I thought the EEC didn't use this information until the engine was up to operating temperature. However, I finally changed both O2's and the ECT sensor at the same time and the car ran like a champ. I don't know which one was the problem, or if it was a combination of both. You should pull the codes. I would be that you have the same or similar problem. I would be interested to know what you find.
 

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Ok, I think O2 might be the problem because the check engine light does go on and off, and one of my friends had his check engine light going on and off and it was the O2 sensors. I also did change out the coolant temp sensor, no change in how the car ran.
 

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FOSHO94,

If you are smelling gas, and it is not leaking gas, then the car must be running rich.

When an O-2 sensor, or both, fail, the computer puts the system in a rich mode to prevent all the bad things than can happen if it were too lean.

Next, a failed IAB can cut down on the air and cause a rich mixture.

Have you noticed any black smoke coming out the exaust, or see a lot of "soot" in the exaust tips?

Injectors that are not funcioning properly can also cause a rich mixture, but this would normally be one or two injectors and should not cause the problem you describe.

If the Check Engine Light (CEL) is comming on, you should have a code stored in the computer. Check your codes. This will tell you the circuit that is causing your problems. I put it that way because a code for an O-2 sensor does not necessarily mean that the O-2 sensor has failed.

It means that the computer is not getting the "signal" that it expects from the O-2 sensor.
It could be due to a failed O-2 sensor, or could be due to a poor connection in the wires to the O-2 sensor.

If the O-2 sensors have 50k miles on them, then they most likely need to be replaced.
If they are relatively new, then you start looking for a poor connection, a freyed wire, a wire rubbed through and rubbing against metal causeing a brief short, etc.

I used the O-2 sensor as an example of how you should approach the problem, and diagnose the problem based upon the symtoms, the history of the patient, and the results of the tests you conduct. (A medical metaphore :rolleyes: )

If you just replace parts, you can spend a lot of money and the problem will continue to be a source of frustration, if you did not look for and find a poor connection! Hope this helps rangerj
 

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you know, maybe you should just have your throttle position sensor checked, maybe its crapping out on you. i think autozone and pepbpys check those things dont they or im sure ford would. its only 20 bucks to replace so its not a big deal either. good luck man.

<small>[ January 06, 2003, 11:12 AM: Message edited by: BlackOnBlackATX ]</small>
 

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yea, thanks well I can tell you the O2 sensors have way more than 50k on them, i bought some today, plan to replace those, also, I know what a TPS is, whats an IAB?
 

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Idle Air Bypass valve. It sits on top of the intake plenum, next to the throttle body. Shotimes.com has the cleaning procedure... very easy to do.
 

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nah your egr valve wouldnt really cause the problems youre talking about. at least not to my knowledge. it would prob throw a code if it was the egr anyway. someone else may disagree though......
 

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