Help installing a Gen II head unit in a Gen I with premuim.

[Cl-Slick]

My brother (JRA2000TL) and I were wanting to install the head unit from his old '93 SHO (JBL Audio) in his '90 (Ford Premium). We have the tape/radio head unit and we got the "cable" we were told to get from the junk yard. Since we don't have the slave CD, but we already have a Gen II black amp. When we installed the radio and amp (no cable), there was faint music playing from the speakers. After that we were told to get the "cable", so any idea where to plug it into?

 

[hawkeye18]

That cable presents more problems than anything else about the JBL system.

This "cable" is the one that the audio is all routed through. ALL the audio. Radio, tape, CD, everything goes through that cable. This means that if you don't have one end hooked to the radio/tape and the other end hooked up to the CD player, you will have no audio.

If you don't have a slave CD unit, you can jumper the other end of this cable; the schematics are... somewhere on here. I don't know where, but I know I've seen them before. It's just the + and - for each speaker.

There are two plugs on the back of the radio; one for the power and one for this cable. If you can load up pics of the back of your radio I can tell you how what works.

You will either need four small paper clips or a slave CD unit for it to work right.

 

[Cl-Slick]

That cable presents more problems than anything else about the JBL system.

This "cable" is the one that the audio is all routed through. ALL the audio. Radio, tape, CD, everything goes through that cable. This means that if you don't have one end hooked to the radio/tape and the other end hooked up to the CD player, you will have no audio.

If you don't have a slave CD unit, you can jumper the other end of this cable; the schematics are... somewhere on here. I don't know where, but I know I've seen them before. It's just the + and - for each speaker.

There are two plugs on the back of the radio; one for the power and one for this cable. If you can load up pics of the back of your radio I can tell you how what works.

You will either need four small paper clips or a slave CD unit for it to work right.

Ok, I'll get on that tomorrow!

 

[Cl-Slick]

Here are the pictures of the radio and cable:

 

[cobrakidd03]

That cable goes from the radio to the cd player

 

[Cl-Slick]

That cable goes from the radio to the cd player

The problem is we don't have the CD player. Any way to run just the radio without the CD player?

 

[hawkeye18]

http://www.shoforum.com/showpost.php?p=836008&postcount=17

 

[Cl-Slick]

http://www.shoforum.com/showpost.php?p=836008&postcount=17

So I'm guessing I connect these with paperclips like you mentioned before? I honestly have no clue, I'm a noob with radios.

 

[hawkeye18]

Paperclips work well, yes. Anything that conducts and won't fall out. If they're the plastic-coated paper clip, obviously expose the metal first

 

[Cl-Slick]

So which pins would I connect with paper clips?

 

[hawkeye18]

well, the connectors are keyed so they can only be installed one way. install the cable to the radio player, then take it back out and note how it looks when installed correctly. Then, make the other end look just like that one and then short the pins as noted in the post I linked to.

 

[cobrakidd03]

or you could find a radio that had no cd player connected to it and pull out the black plug that is in the spot where the cd player plug went. I can sell you a CD player if you need one. I just finished putting in a probe EQ with the factory am/fm cd player.

 

[Cl-Slick]

or you could find a radio that had no cd player connected to it and pull out the black plug that is in the spot where the cd player plug went. I can sell you a CD player if you need one. I just finished putting in a probe EQ with the factory am/fm cd player.

Hmm, I'll have to check the junkyard for the plug next time I'm there. It's my brother's SHO (JRA2000TL), so I'll ask him if he wants the CD player. How much do you want for it?

 

[cobrakidd03]

$25.00 plus shipping

 

[Cl-Slick]

$25.00 plus shipping

Sweet, I'll ask him if he wants it.

 

[jonheese]

Here's the explanation of the cable and its pinout:
http://wiki.wikisho.com/wiki/Upgrading_the_Audio_System

Regards,
Jon Heese

 

[JRA2000TL]

This is a follow up to the thread my brother posted. He found a "jumper" plug in the j/y the other day which supposedly goes in if you don't have the CD player installed. It's the 6 pin black plug. I plugged in my Gen II radio (power supply and antenna, and jumper plug), then plugged in the Gen II amp in the trunk. There is one extra gray cord that goes to nothing?? (probably the silver amp to power the sub, which I don't have). Here are the pics of what I plugged in. The radio powers on but I get no sound still.

Radio plugged in (power supply, antenna, and the "jumper" plug on the far left side-6 pin)
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Amp plugged in trunk--notice extra gray cord; does that need to go somewhere? I don't have the silver amp or sub in this. It's a base 90 with just premium sound.


What am I doing wrong? Do I need to do just like above and buy a slave CD and make it work? Might as well I guess since it's always nice to have a CD player.

Oh and here's my little garage setup I have going tonight-thought I'd throw that in there; that's my long island iced tea on that old crappy telephone table I have in the garage (crappy cell phone pic) he he

 

[Devin]

I tried to get a Premium from a 97 Mustang working on my 90 JBL and I eventually gave up. Never worked.

 

[JRA2000TL]

Anyone at all able to help with this? I haven't seen Jelloslug on here in awhile. I know some of you guys have gotten yours to work. Maybe I just need to buy the slave CD player since I have the cable for it.

I did some more searching and maybe I need to find this Y cable that others have spoken about. I think I remember seeing one of these at the j/y. I thought that the Y cable is only used if you want the CD unit to work. I also thought that since I have power to my Gen 2 radio and have that black "dummy" plug in that it would work.

I'm wondering---the guy that had the car before me had in an aftermarket radio but used a harness (no splicing of the car's wires). I'm thinking he bypassed the amp and that's probably the reason I have no sound. I'm not sure how to verify this or remove whatever he did. It appears that either amp is not working (Gen I or Gen 2) when plugged in.

 

[BullzOnParade]

Gen 1s and 2s have different remote amp turn on voltage. One is 6v and the other is 12v, I forget which one is which. Maybe that's the problem???