Has anyone heard of this?

[SmoknHondaOwnrs]

I was told that a company is advertising a turbo in which the turbo is installed underneath of the car between the y pipe and the mid pipe . I dont know how true this is, and if you ask me i think it sounds rediculous. OTOH, if this was a proven method that works well id be up to try somthing like that on a SHO. I would just think that the temps would get high and the routing for intake tubing would be a pain.

 

[typhoon5000]

It's called a remote turbo set up. kits first came out for trucks, but then it caught on with other vehicles. I've been told it's actually very efficient and there somehow is no difference in turbo lag, even with the extra piping. Some have even been mounted right before the tail pipe. The only example I know off hand is a 1995 Mercury Grand Marquis with the Triton V10 stuffed in it with a remote Twin Turbo setup that runs mid 11's in the 1/4 on slicks (I've seen video of it).

 

[warmonger]

ummm we have a member on here with a remote turbo setup

 

[yamahaSHO]

If it works mounted all the way in the rear of the car, it'll do even better at the Y-pipe. In fact, that's probably equivalent to the distance that Tim has his mounted.

 

[Shoaz]

Horsepower TV (on Spike, part of the Powerblock) did a twin turbo installation on a Corvette where the turbos were just at the rear bumper, IIRC just before the mufflers. The return pipes went up just inside the rocker panels and they claimed that the charge lost about 100F along the way (which, I'm sure, some of that just goes inside the cabin). I was wondering about the compression delay as well, but it dynoed quite well when they finished it up.

I was really skeptical about the whole thing (still am, actually), but the results that they were able to show were quite good. Naturally they don't cover much on drivability, etc., but I was a bit surprised that it worked as well as it did.

 

[SASHO91]

AFAIK, there are two members that have a "remote" style setup. Scott's "true" remote setup. And 1slick95sho (i think thats his screen name) setup, which has the turbo sitting under the subframe next the trans. Or somewhere close to that location.

IIRC, scott put down 350-ish to the wheels with his setup. So yeah, they do work.

 

[SmoknHondaOwnrs]

So thats what a remote turbo is. Heh...Never knew that. It sounds kinda weird to me, especially running them before the mufflers.

 

[SASHO91]

normally you dont run a muffler.... but you can if you want to.


EDIT: check out STS site. they have some sound clips... Or i'd bet that you tube, or Google video has some as well.
I remember back in highschool, i saw a tundra with a STS setup... man that thing sounded really good.

EDIT: here- http://ststurbo.com/

 

[SmoknHondaOwnrs]

Now i think they are on to something here. I like this...

 

[HotRodKid]

theres room on MTX cars to mount the turbo in the engine bay
theres room on ATX cars to mount the turbo under the front bumper

theres room on MTX cars to mount the turbo in the "doghouse"
theres room on ATX cars to mount the turbo in the "doghouse"

why put a turbo all the way in the back ?

 

[yamahaSHO]

1slick95sho (i think thats his screen name) setup, which has the turbo sitting under the subframe next the trans.

I wouldn't really consider that a "remote" setup. Tim's turbo is not right off the manifolds, but it's not considered in a remote location...

 

[dantheman68]

theres room on MTX cars to mount the turbo in the engine bay
theres room on ATX cars to mount the turbo under the front bumper

theres room on MTX cars to mount the turbo in the "doghouse"
theres room on ATX cars to mount the turbo in the "doghouse"

why put a turbo all the way in the back ?

i think im with you on this one... it really doesnt make sense to me...plus with all that piping i'd worry about clearances and stuff...

maybe there is less pressure later in the exhaust system when you arent driving it hard, you wont see the lost gas mileage as much i dont really know that much about turbo performance... i just have a good idea of how they work and what they do...

 

[yamahaSHO]

i think im with you on this one... it really doesnt make sense to me...plus with all that piping i'd worry about clearances and stuff...

maybe there is less pressure later in the exhaust system when you arent driving it hard, you wont see the lost gas mileage as much

That makes NO sense.

i dont really know that much about turbo performance... i just have a good idea of how they work and what they do...

Remote turbos are easier to fab up yourself, they work, and the offer PLENTY of power for these cars. The remote turbo SHO RAN past Terry's SC SHO in 4th gear.... That's in the triple digits.

 

[Jonny Cash]

I was told that a company is advertising a turbo in which the turbo is installed underneath of the car between the y pipe and the mid pipe . I dont know how true this is, and if you ask me i think it sounds rediculous. OTOH, if this was a proven method that works well id be up to try somthing like that on a SHO. I would just think that the temps would get high and the routing for intake tubing would be a pain.

yea. when I first heard of it i wasnt a beleiver. So much lag wtf? But Ill tell ya, its cheaper, easier, and the shit works. Just go to STS and look at the feedback. The numbers are there.

 

[40BelowSummer]

Hmmm..I might have to ditch the Vortech for a remote-mounted turbo. Gotta love the spooling noise. Plus Ill lose alot of weight in the front and gain some in the back. The sale from the Vortech alone should buy me everything I need with cash to spare. Plus I;d love to be able to keep the boost down and turn it up on specific occasions rather than being limited to a pulley. (thinking out loud here)

 

[HotRodKid]

somedudes' mileage went UP with the turbo install. its at 33 now, and the cars far from well tuned

if you want milage, keep your foot out of it
if you want hp, put your foot into it

its that simple

 

[yamahaSHO]

Hmmm..I might have to ditch the Vortech for a remote-mounted turbo. Gotta love the spooling noise. Plus Ill lose alot of weight in the front and gain some in the back. The sale from the Vortech alone should buy me everything I need with cash to spare. Plus I;d love to be able to keep the boost down and turn it up on specific occasions rather than being limited to a pulley. (thinking out loud here)

I wouldn't do that... but that's me.

I got 28 mpg on mine right after I installed the blower and had a "safe", yet rich tune...

 

[munkee]

yea. when I first heard of it i wasnt a beleiver. So much lag wtf? But Ill tell ya, its cheaper, easier, and the shit works. Just go to STS and look at the feedback. The numbers are there.

I'm not knocking the sts idea because I know it works, I just don't see how you guys think it is more than marginally easier to fab up, and how can it possibly be cheaper? You have all the same parts regardless of where they are mounted. I can see how it would be easier for someone who may not know exactly what they are doing so they don't end up frying wire looms in the engine bay with hot charge pipes, but there are different pros and cons that come with each mounting consideration.

 

[Geek SHO]

It appears to me that one advantage of a remote turbo is installing does not require taking apart the front half of the car. I could see a weight balance improvement too.

I'll stick to the Eaton for a while though.

 

[1slickRED89]

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Originally Posted by SASHO91
1slick95sho (i think thats his screen name) setup, which has the turbo sitting under the subframe next the trans.


I wouldn't really consider that a "remote" setup.

neither would I, it has less than 25" of pipe between the exhaust valves and the turbine wheel, that's the least of any Taurus-bodied Turbo car that I know of. I tried be a 'turbo-purist' when I designed and built it, incorporating all the good ideas I have seen in books, magazines and on the web and omitting the bad design flaws. and it worked pretty good, the car picked up 110hp and 100lb/ft over stock while still using pump gas with a rock-stock engine (except for the fuel supply). now the engine has been modified with a new intake for more flow, it has not yet been dyno'ed with the high-rise tunnel ram, but my expectations might be a tad high.


It will be in Kalamazoo for enthusiast review in July.