Everyone I Owe

[Jonny Cash]

Got my money today. Thanks Aaron. Good luck.

 

[Sho Amo]

short shifter and foglight brackets please refund. $385 paypal [email protected]

 

[Sho Amo]

still waiting for reply/payment........

 

[Minnesho]

its the beginning of the month so i paid some bills with this check, but SHO AMO and EXCIDERE are high on my priority list. i will get partial refunds to both of you quickly. Thank you.

 

[Bizzy]

its the beginning of the month so i paid some bills with this check, but SHO AMO and EXCIDERE are high on my priority list. i will get partial refunds to both of you quickly. Thank you.

And in the mean time you have an alternate user name which you use to access all of the forum. Or at least you DID. You accessed both accounts this evening so don't deny it. The other user name is blownatx95. The only reason why I continue to entertain these shenanigans is so that the people here who you owe money to will hopefully get their refunds. I think I've been abundantly clear where I stand so do not try that again.

 

[Minnesho]

there is no hopefully about it.I am refunding everyone I owe and that is where it stands. I got myself in over my head and I'm admiting my mistakes/wrong-doings. I honestly want to be a helpful part of this forum with my vast sho knowledge and I understand selling is not an option for me. I failed with that too many times. However I would like to make right what has been wrong, and hopefully be part of the forum still. I don't need access to the classifieds. but someday again I do hope I can acess the other parts of the forum to provide assistance with my knowledge of these cars and get help in the parts I don't know. but in the meantime I need to make things right which have been wrong for most of the year.

 

[Minnesho]

Excidere I should be sending you a full refund roughly around the 22nd of this month. sho amo you are next. thank you.

 

[30footSHO]

And in the mean time you have an alternate user name which you use to access all of the forum. Or at least you DID. You accessed both accounts this evening so don't deny it. The other user name is blownatx95. The only reason why I continue to entertain these shenanigans is so that the people here who you owe money to will hopefully get their refunds. I think I've been abundantly clear where I stand so do not try that again.

So you're the **** who didn't come through on the 60k deal in the spring! Good luck making things right.

 

[whiteman_01]

Just to make things clear for everyone, blownatx95 is a completly different person. His name is Adam, and yes, the IP addy is the same because they live in the same house. I know, I have been there. I just thought i would try to clear this up, i know for a fact that this is not another Minnesho account.

Im sure this wont make a difference to any of you, because everyone is so quick to jump to conclutions. I know it looks bad, i know it seems like an excuse, but this is the truth.

 

[Bizzy]

And again, I don't believe for a second that Aaron is not using the other account for his own purposes. See the other thread for my reasons.

 

[Sho Amo]

i dont really car about the other accounts or anything like that. i dont make alot of money to begin with and im in debt from my sho being crashed and breaking down so frequently.

im not trying to be selfish but i really need this $385 right now. sorry if i offended.

 

[excidere]

Aaron you should refund Sho Amo first, I can wait.

 

[Sho Amo]

im beginning to wonder wether this is actually going to happen anyways, i have been on and off about being optimistic.

 

[DDakRT]

Aaron you should refund Sho Amo first, I can wait.

Very cool of you to offer that to another member.

 

[Jonny Cash]

im not trying to be selfish but i really need this $385 right now. sorry if i offended.

props to you for keeping your cool through all this. I cant say Id handle it the same way. Dont be sorry, you paid for something, you deserve your money back.

 

[turbo79]

Adam / Aaron: I sent you a USPS money order for $60.00 for a '95 hard button EATC on 10/05/07.

$50. for the part, $10. for shipping.

Isn't a federal crime to mis-use USPS money orders?

 

[Bizzy]

Adam / Aaron: I sent you a USPS money order for $60.00 for a '95 hard button EATC on 10/05/07.

$50. for the part, $10. for shipping.

Isn't a federal crime to mis-use USPS money orders?

Yes.

MAIL FRAUD DEFINITION AND PUNISHMENT
Whoever

1) having devised, or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud,
or
2) for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan…
3) something of value or some item…and
4) places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter
5) any item to be delivered by interstate carrier

shall be fined …or imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both.

Mail fraud refers to any scheme which attempts to unlawfully obtain money or valuables in which the postal system is used at any point in the commission of a criminal offence. Mail fraud is a legal concept in the United States Code which can provide for increased penalty of any criminally fraudulent activity if it is determined that the activity involved used the United States Postal Service. As in the case of wire fraud, this statute is often used as a basis for a separate federal prosecution of what would otherwise have been only a violation of a state law. The concept of mail fraud is irrelevant in countries with non-federal legal systems: the activities listed below are likely to be crimes, but the fact that they are carried out by mail makes no difference to which authority may prosecute or the penalties which may be imposed.

Non-delivery or misrepresentation of mail-order merchandise

This scheme exists in various forms; order an item, make payment, receive nothing is the simplest form of mail fraud. Other variants include misleading descriptions (advertisement says an expensive camera is available by mail-order, when the item arrives it turns out to be a toy camera), deliberate sale of defective merchandise or even stolen merchandise. High-ticket items such as computer hardware are particularly tempting targets for scam artists.

The same scams now exist online; non-delivery of auction or mail-order merchandise advertised on Internet sites is a common complaint.

Another variant involves shipping merchandise which was never ordered, obtaining a signature on delivery (or even COD), demanding payment for the items on the basis that they were signed for at destination.

Promotions selling services or data delivered entirely online are also particularly high-risk; if the "send a money order to Texas, we'll make a few phone calls and tell you what your employment references have really been saying behind your back" refuses to deliver as advertised, a fraud may be much more difficult to prove than if the seller is obliged to ship a parcel which requires a signature at destination.

Internet fraud and online auction fraud

Internet fraud or wire fraud schemes may also qualify as mail fraud if the mails are being used at any point in the scheme, including a request that a money order be sent to pay for non-existent or undelivered auction merchandise. Many of these schemes are merely variants on the fraudulent mail-order scams in which the merchandise is never delivered as described or delivered at all.

Online schemes claiming that "a hot female ****** will give you access to her entire *********** collection on some Internet site if you send a money order to a drop box in Barrie", if payment is accepted by postal money order and the product never received, would also qualify. The original solicitation is made online, the supposed product claims to be delivered online, but use of the mails at any point (such as to receive money or negotiable instruments) could easily qualify such a scheme as mail fraud.

To file a USPS mail fraud complaint click here==> Mail fraud complaint form.

The FTC does not resolve individual consumer problems, your complaint helps investigate fraud, and can lead to law enforcement action. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies worldwide. To fill out a complaint form at Consumer Sentinel click here ===> Consumer Sentinel Complaint form

Those are the places you need to start. You can also ask at your local post office and they will often help you obtain the proper forms necessary to file a claim.

The rest is on you. My best suggestion is follow through with what you start.

Oh, also see the FBI website on mail fraud.

 

[91Taurus]

Aaron came through for me today . I got all 4 of the center caps that i paid for, and something extra [that I needed] for free, because of the time it took.

 

[Sho Amo]

 

[BrianX]

Hey Aaron,

I honestly thank you and forgive you for coming clean, so please come through for me too!

I got all of the parts I needed (because it's been over a year) so a refund is definitly needed. It would be great for this broke college student!