eibach vs. intrax

[SH0 N G0]

Ive been researching the 2 different springs for my first generation sho. Im not sure which ones are "better". What i mean is which set are the better bang for the buck in better handleing, an better ride over stock. The eibachs are lowered 1" in the front and .5" in the back while the intrax are 1.5" in the front and 1.0" in the back. does anyone have any problems with rubbing in the inside fender wells with the intrax? Im looking at getting a set of slicers soon also if that is going to have an effect on rubbing. When i get the set of springs im also going to buy sub frame connectors to help stiffen up the chassis. Im just trying to decide between eibachs and intrax... advice

 

[PROPHET]

Intrax with no other modifications will wear the inside of your tires very quickly, plan on other mods if you go this route.

Eibachs will have less issues of alignment and more even tire wear, this would be the cheaper route in the long run.

Shouldn't have rubbing issues unless you go beyond the limits of the tire size for the slicer rim.

Also when modifying the suspension remember that the stiffer the ride, the quicker those pesky rattle sounds come on these old cars, fine for strictly track use but for daily street driver, comfort should be first and foremost.

 

[fastsho92]

I just bought a 92 SHO today, and it has Intrax's with kyb GR2's. (i think it has KYB's on it). Im not sure i just looked under and the strut was silver, so i know it is after market. The stand is really nice, its not low enough to hit anything. but you have to go slow over speed bumps. Im not sure what it is yet, but it seems like the tire is rubing. But im not sure because it does it whenever i turn at low speed. Ill figure it out. The car also needs a serious alingment soon. So expect to do that.

 

[GoofSHO]

You NEED to align your car after ANY suspension Mod. I've had both springs,...I prefer the Intrax. Eighbachs don't lower the vehicle as much, thus, not as much geometry change. It all depends on the " End User ". " What are you looking for " ( i.e. looks, performance,etc. )


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[SableSal]

You NEED to align your car after ANY suspension Mod. I've had both springs,...I prefer the Intrax. Eighbachs don't lower the vehicle as much, thus, not as much geometry change. It all depends on the " End User ". " What are you looking for " ( i.e. looks, performance,etc. )


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This is true. I personally prefer an Eibach Spring.



Sal

 

[greenbeanmtx]

Ive got the intrax tokico setup on my car and have put about 700 miles on the setup now and i must confess that if the road is bumpy, it will ride extremely rough. To put it in perspective my alpine cd player will skip on just about any bump in the highway and my back flat out hurt by the time i got home from a 250 mile trip on some of texas worst highway or better known as I-35. If theres a softer ride on the eibachs then id recommend them. As much as i love the performance mine has now i plan to buy another sho pretty soon and leave it bone stock suspension wise so i wont get jarred around and just use greenbean as a toy or something.

 

[Devin]

Is there a spring that is better suspension-wise but is not as wickedly bumpy as the Intraxes and Eibachs? I am about to put down the money for some suspension upgrades and I will probably go with the KYBs, but I am up a creek when it comes to springs.

 

[yamahaSHO]

You can lower a SHO very low with Eibach providing you use the right strut mount. I have Eibach's on both of my car and one sits considerably lower than the other. The Eibach, even with the TALLER strut mounts can wear your tires VERY fast on the inside. Here is a picture of 4-5,000 miles of use on the front. This is with an alignment, but not with camber modification. You will have to move the strut mounts outward to stand the knuckle up straight for proper camber adjustment.

 

[ShelbyDoug]

It isn't just the spring that gives a harder ride, the Tokicos are pretty stiff with any spring. The Konis are worse. The KYB's are not much better then the Gabriels, which isn't good at all. Specific SHO Motorcrafts are going to give the softest "performance"ride.
The Tokicos and Konis both give a better ride in warmer temps. Under 25 degrees they are both ****.
If you use a shorter then stock spring, you will need to use NOOK's adjustable camber kit. It works great.
Use the washer marked 3/4.
You will also need to reset the toe in.
That's pretty easy though. Just turn the rod ends out three turns each.
I run Intrax/Tokico with 225-55-16 Nexen's on slicers with no rubbing.
I think this lowers the car just about right and the slightly shorter (but fatter) tire lowers the final drive ratio just a little. That's good for performance.
Front line stabilaty using stock caster settings is fine with the above set up.
If you increase caster you will also increase steering effort and increase understeer.
You can also soften the ride by running lower tire pressures on the street. I personally wouldn't go under 28 pounds. If you go on a road race track for the day start with 40 psi.
You can help the car steer through certain turns by using unequal tire pressures to make the car pull slightly to the left or right.
With radial tires you can check the edges of the treads to see if you are rolling the tires on thier edges. You should to get the most side bite from a radial. The trick is to get the tire pressure just right. Too much pressure and you loose the advantage of the soft radial wall and too little and you roll the tire off of the rim which really isn't a good thing.
Air pressure is strictly trial and error and varies according to, well, everything, air temp, tire style, driving style, etc.

 

[Sho-Driver]

You are correct in saying the struts will give you a stiffer ride, but so will the springs. Also, you can correct your camber without a kit. Drilling the strut plate welds and moving the mount yourself will give you the same amount of adjustment or more.

 

[AutoSHO]

I just put Konis/Eibachs on my car and couldn't be happier. The ride is hardly stiffer than stock, IMO. It sits very nicely. From my stock 145k stuff, the front dropped ~1.5", and the rear rose about .5" due to my sagging stock stuff. I'll get a picture of the ride height as soon as I can. The ride is extremely nice for the car being as low as it is. It was very comfortable on my 170 mile trip home. The ride is truly not much stiffer than the stock SHO springs. Once I get some stiffer sidewall tires on I may have a little more feedback, but for now I'm 100% satisfied.

 

[MYSHO1]

mine is very hard. I have alot done but the hardness is anoying some times. MY CD player wont ever skip but i can hear the bumps... Its not a real good street set up but i love taking corners!

 

[ShelbyDoug]

No one NEEDS the adjustable camber kit but it is a real plus to have. It is infinately easier to change the setting then drilling holes and installing rivets.
I was just trying to help others with the experience I've had. If you don't want to hear it, I'll just keep it to myself and let everyone spin thier own wheels. Sorry...out'a here

 

[Sho-Driver]

IMHO, it is actually easier to just cut or drill the plates off. You do not have to take out the strut assmbly to do this and there is no need to install rivets. All you need to do is tighten down the nuts and it won't move. It is a cheaper alternative that does the same purpose. To move the strut mount outward, you'll have to jack up the car, but that's as hard as it gets.

 

[tripleblack90]

i have intrax springs on my car, the ride is a lot stiffer, and there is a camber problem, but what it sounds like is that i dont have the problem that most of you guys do, i do not drive mine very often so if after 4000-5000 miles, the tires are showing uneven wear, that will be two years down the road for me, my suggestion to all you that use their SHO as a daily driver, definitely get the camber fixed, tires are not cheap, and speaking from experience since i work at one, tire shops are not stupid, we know exactly what causes tires to look the way they do, and most times we will not replace warranted tires due to driver negligence, get the camber fixed or you will pay dearly in the cost of new tires

 

[shobote]

Just a comment on the suspension upgrades; there is no free lunch: if you go with stiff springs and struts, you will gain cornering and stability and at the expense of feeling the bumps; the car will also develop a number of new squeaks and rattles as the SHO's chassis are a far cry from anything out there today. I've driven other modded SHO's, and the NVH is horrible; just too much for me; unacceptable for a street driven car IMO (on the roads in the midwest anyway). Track or smooth road driving; now that's another story; go for it and enjoy !

 

[SH0 N G0]

How much is a camber kit? als is the camber kit for only the front tires or both front and rear? If i get the eibach spring will i need a camber kit or is that only with the intrax. I'm not ordering stts for awhile, next im going into performance mods so after my springs im done with suspension for awhile...

 

[SHOSIG]

I have Intrax springs and do not have an alignment issue. I don't have uneven tire wear either. Also real happy with the ride quality.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Sieger, have you cut a coil up front?

 

[SH0 N G0]

more performance (better handeling wise) eibach r intrax...also if anyone has any pics of a sho with eibachs or intrax springs that they could post would be greatly appreciated, thanks..