EGR delete

[NevurMind85]

ive searched and couldnt find very definet answers. id like to delete my egr system, ive found how they deleted it at both ends by blocking it off on the manifolds and then at the intake, but after that would i need to retune the computer? or can i just delete it and be fine? id love to remove it to get rid of the extra heat from the intake and away from the back coils. ive already removed the back hood seal to help that out (and those that have done that, do you guys get rain in under the hood from that? i havent had rain since i did it friday.)

 

[SHO U UP]

ive searched and couldnt find very definet answers. id like to delete my egr system, ive found how they deleted it at both ends by blocking it off on the manifolds and then at the intake, but after that would i need to retune the computer? or can i just delete it and be fine? id love to remove it to get rid of the extra heat from the intake and away from the back coils. ive already removed the back hood seal to help that out (and those that have done that, do you guys get rain in under the hood from that? i havent had rain since i did it friday.)

Yes, if you delete your EGR the car will have to be tuned to not allow the code to pop up on the dash. I had mine done on my '97 SHO. But if you are in a state where they check emissions, you may want to think twice about doing it. Don't expect any gains either when you do. All you basically do is affect the cars warm-up schedule and a small loss of weight if you delete the ENTIRE system from the front to the rear gas tank.

 

[NevurMind85]

gotta love living in indiana where we dont have emmissions testing. so the tune would be only to get rid of the ses light from it or to get it to run right?

 

[SHO U UP]

All the tune is gonna do is keep the light from coming on when its programmed to. It's not going to do anything for the car to run right, it should run right once you delete it though unless there is something else wrong with the car. The tuner will increase certain parameters though so there will essential be a small bit of power/torque increase, especially in the tranny shifting. You'll be glad you got the tuner whether you remove the EGR system or not.

 

[NevurMind85]

ok good. and yea im looking for a used sct tuner, id love to have one.

 

[stephen newberg]

What is the point? There are no HP or torque gains to be had from deleting the ERG. All you do is make the emissions worse.

pax, smn

 

[NevurMind85]

to remove heat from the intake. i live in indiana and we dont have emissions testing.

 

[SHO U UP]

What is the point? There are no HP or torque gains to be had from deleting the ERG. All you do is make the emissions worse.

pax, smn

I agree with ya on the HP/TQ stuff, but it looks cleaner under most hoods with all the hardware missing and on my '97 SHO I had no choice. Either supercharge it or leave on the emissions crap. Can you guess which way I went?

 

[stephen newberg]

It looks cleaner, but for anyone breathing, it is less clean. Got it.

pax, smn

 

[SHO U UP]

It looks cleaner, but for anyone breathing, it is less clean. Got it.

pax, smn

I gotcha boss. Now if only people would quit smoking then we'd all be set.

 

[stephen newberg]

I gotcha boss. Now if only people would quit smoking then we'd all be set.

Ya, hard to disagree on that one.

pax, smn

 

[ThatShoGuy]

I agree I'm more bothered by smokers them I care about emissons

 

[stephen newberg]

I think many of us feel that way, as the smoker is in your personal face at the time and very obvious, while environmental problems from auto emissions are just not as obvious or immediate. But that does not mean they do not happen. Instead, by disabling emissions systems in our cars, we steadily make it harder on everyone around us and certainly much harder on our children. Which is why I tend to find it disturbing that so many here will calmly do these things. There are solid reasons for the health of everyone world wide for emission controls, cat converters, etc. Disabling them or removing them is simply not a good thing, and no one should fool themselves into thinking that it is. I know that my saying this going to get some mad at me, and I am sorry about that, but if you think past yourself and to others at all, you should want to keep your auto emission systems intact and working well, even if your particular location does not force you to do so via regular inspections. It is simply the right thing to do.

pax, smn

 

[firebat45]

With some cars, EGR actually increases performance slightly. I forget the reasoning but that little factoid stuck out to me, since it was so strange.

While I agree that removing EGR is mostly pointless and adds to the world's pollution, I don't think it's really an issue here. If someone wants to clean up their engine bay, go for it. A few thousand enthusiasts is not going to make a significant impact.

If we all did what was strictly best for the planet, we'd all be in smart cars/priuses (priusi?)/public transit. I think everyone should be allowed some vices, and clean engine bays are one of them.

I wonder what pollutes more, the extra pollution from a car with the EGR removed, or a lifetime smoker. I can definitely tell you which one bothers me more.

 

[stephen newberg]

I wonder what pollutes more, the extra pollution from a car with the EGR removed, or a lifetime smoker. I can definitely tell you which one bothers me more.

Well, I certainly agree on what is more personally bothersome. But as per what actually pollutes more, probably removing the ERG, I suspect. Plus, though second hand smoke is no fun to be around and some studies show it can be harmful in enclosed spaces, the smoker is mainly hurting themselves, and personally, if they want to **** themselves, fine by me, though I would rather they did it away from anyone else that has to breathe. But removing your ERG is not like that. It instead hurts everyone, period. There is a reason it is there, and it should be left in place and be functional, for the general good of pretty much anything alive.

pax, smn

 

[SHOZ123]

The EGR delete will cool the intake a good 30F at highway speeds.

 

[stephen newberg]

So will driving in the rain.

pax, smn

 

[venom]

The EGR delete will cool the intake a good 30F at highway speeds.

But it will also elevate cylinder head temps when EGR is normally active (cruise). As much as it is a **** emissions thing it has it's perks too... I kept mine when I had the choice. Ripped the SAI out tho as the plumbing would had to have been rebent to go around the MTX, and it sure isn't worth that. And it's another 10 Pounds in the trash

 

[SHOZ123]

It will elevate them but not to the point of doing damage. You want hot cylinders for the most efficiency and power. It is the oil and coolant's job to cool along with radiant heat off the metal. Not diluting the oxygen content of the air mix.

 

[stephen newberg]

Regardless, it is bad for anyone and everything that has to breathe air when you remove it, as then you are "diluting the oxygen content of the air mix" for everyone instead of for the motor. Worth thinking about.

pax, smn