crank sensor maybe?

[randy'sho]

driving home from work yesterday the cel came on twice and both times the car stumbled something bad.....check all the obvious when I got home...this morning i get going about a mile into my commute and wham she starts stumbling again and then it cleared up and wham again and it died, but the tach was still reading over 2k rpm when the car was dead on the side of the road....but after sitting for about 5 seconds she fired right back up and i brought it back home...haven't pulled the codes yet, but sounds like a crank sensor too me....let me know what you guys think....thanks

 

[St Louis SHO]

Cam sensor.

 

[93rev2sev]

Unplug that cam sensor and drive around for a bit. If the stumbling goes away, plug it back in. That way, when the stumbling returns, you will KNOW you found the culprit.

 

[randy'sho]

will the car even run with the cam sensor unplugged?

 

[mrstwistedmunky]

the car we just bought was doing the same thing and so they replaced the cam sensor...it's still doing it so now i'm replacing the crank sensor...yes it's a bigger pain in the ass but i'm pretty sure that is what it is.

 

[randy'sho]

okay i read now that you have to start the car first then disconnect the cam sensor...coo thanks guys I will try that!

 

[93rev2sev]

okay i read now that you have to start the car first then disconnect the cam sensor...coo thanks guys I will try that!

No you don't. That sounds dangerous, anyway. The cam sensor is not needed to start the car...it's just needed to start the car on the first turn of the key every time. If you pull the cam sensor and go to start the car, you may have to try to start it up to 3 times...it WILL start.

 

[randy'sho]

okay thanks man!

 

[randy'sho]

okay so i pull the cam sensor plug off and the car will barely ideal! rpms go up and down like crazy.....plug it back in and the car runs smooth! ahhh guess i need to go read the codes!

 

[randy'sho]

okay so here are my codes....157(maf) 211(crank sensor) 214(cam sensor)...wtf?

 

[jmpSHO]

Who said a 211 code was a crank sensor? 214 could be a crank, cam sensor or DIS. I would start with changing the cam sensor since it's cheap and easy to change and see what codes come up after that. With a 211 and 214 code I would say it's the DIS but the cam sensor is so cheap it's worth it to try it first.

 

[randy'sho]

Who said a 211 code was a crank sensor? 214 could be a crank, cam sensor or DIS. I would start with changing the cam sensor since it's cheap and easy to change and see what codes come up after that. With a 211 and 214 code I would say it's the DIS but the cam sensor is so cheap it's worth it to try it first.

I have read several post that have said that 211 end up being the crank sensor!

 

[jmpSHO]

Continuous Memory Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) 211 indicates two successive erratic Profile Ignition Pickup (PIP) pulses occurred, resulting in an engine miss or stall.

Possible causes:



•Arcing secondary ignition components (coil, cap, rotor, wires, plugs, etc.).
•Loose wires/connectors.

 

[randy'sho]

jmpSHO not arguing with you at all, I value your advice and I plan on swapping out the DIS then the Cam sensor....here is the thread that I was referring too....
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=92589&highlight=211+code

 

[jmpSHO]

jmpSHO not arguing with you at all, I value your advice and I plan on swapping out the DIS then the Cam sensor....here is the thread that I was referring too....
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=92589&highlight=211+code

I never said you were arguing with me I was just curious where you heard that a 211 code was a crank sensor. It very well could be, with a SHO anything is possible.

 

[randy'sho]

no harm no foul man! I am hoping that you are right believe me! I am going to swap the DIS in the morning!

 

[TwistedMunky]

replace the crank sensor. I just finished mine. I had the same problem, now I have a nice sho I just picked up for 500 just because of the sensor. I did have the rpm gauge moving when i was cranking. After I look at it maybe its because the sensor was dirty where the contacts where.

 

[randy'sho]

well I went to the jy today and pulled a cam sensor and a DIS off an SHO, put it on my car and cleaned my MAF....went for a drive and everything is back to normal! drove about 75 miles and she runs like a dream! thanks for all the help guys!