coil overs

[patrick hubbard]

does any one know if sho source is going to do more coil overs

 

[gamefanatic]

I haven't seen anything as of recently, unfortunately...

 

[99sho-time]

Seems the option isn't on their site anymore. Personally I went the king springs route.

 

[gamefanatic]

Doesn't king spring focus on off road applications?

 

[99sho-time]

sho source sells a set for tauruses.

 

[gamefanatic]

Ahh. Okay, I thought you might have been refering to a whole setup. Unfortunately the springs typically outlast the shock itself.

I've been looking to replace my SARCs for a while. I would be purchasing the Shosource setup, but alas they don't seem to have it setup as a regular inventory item.

I talked to a couple of vendors, but had been to lazy to follow up with them to get into the details. I seemed to have misplaced their contact info... Profressional procrastinator here!

 

[99sho-time]

yeah I had to assemble the struts myself. our sho factory struts are shorter front and back when it compares to regular taurus replacement struts. I ended up only putting in the kyb xg struts in the rear and re used my front factory struts cause i could barely fit the assembled kyb strut in the front. until i wein the lottoo and buy those 300 dollar sarc replacements that are the rigth length.

 

[gamefanatic]

I haven't been able to locate actual NIB SARCs.

I did purchase a set of those Maxpeeding coilovers from Amazon. They are pretty good, but have some drawbacks that I'm wrestling with.

1. No thrust or radial bearing.
2. No camber/caster alignment
3. No rebound / compression adjustments

WAat do you expect for 4 shocks shipped for less that 1 SARC?

Whats good about them is everything looks in order. They can be height adjusted both up and down. I haven't checked as to how that will relate to stock. For my current situation, I think anything would be up..

Looking into seeing if Shosource camber caster coilover plates will make these better. If thats not an option I've got my eye on a few other directions.

I still have my second SHO which is awaiting some TLC as well that will need something in the suspension realm. I am seeing whats available for the first and then head for the second.

If I could just find a coilover that would have adjustability, I'd be happy. Seems like there are a lot of standard options to fix the other problems.

 

[99sho-time]

I friend of mine who owns a rose mist install the ebays coil-overs and one failed in the front after not much driving. I decided not to use them because of that and the rears would be too low.

I don't use camber caster plates for mine. i do have some neg camber i haven't seen any real downsides.

One thing I did do rigth away is get shorter stab links front and back buying adjustable ones from ebay called white line. and modifying my rear ones. if you dont shorten the stab links lowering the car will make the car handle worse imo.

dont buy moog strut mounts.

 

[gamefanatic]

Both of my cars have the Shosource ingalls/moog camber kits already up front and have the ingalls adjustable control arms for the rears. Not sure which mounts I went for the tops though.

Those plates could be used, but alignment shops quote me extra for them since they have to remove the shock to adjust them.

Good to know about the failure. I'll be on the lookout and retain my SARCs until I find a better solution. I haven't installed them yet as I need to dial in on an a desirable alignment solution for the fronts.

 

[99sho-time]

why do you have camber kits on are you on lowering springs? are you trying to put lowering springs on sarcs for one of your shos?

 

[gamefanatic]

I don't have lowering springs installed. My current suspension is all stock style (MAD/JAR) with the camber kits, which are likely correcting for sag.

I just received the Coilovers and looking as to how I'm going to set them up. These coil overs don't have adjustments for camber/caster as you take them below the stock ride height like Shosource's had. From what I can see you could use the Ingalls/Moog adjustment plates with these.

 

[99sho-time]

when it comes to those ebay coil overs I wonder if it would be a crazy idea to have a welder strengthen them with gussets or an extra sleeve going through on the inside.

 

[gamefanatic]

Well depends on where difficiencies are seen. Not all vendors coilovers will have the same problems. These are height adjustable so they have a screw threading that is on the inside to extend the base length of the shock, which welding something on the inside would defeat the purpose. Though welding an additional threaded M50x2 base sleeve could be done to make it longer. Probably bringing your cost up to two SARCs to combine two sets.

I'm no mechanical engineer, but the internal threads would be the area to hold the pieces together, and the spring perches are about 9mm each mot including the base collar, hold the entire compression of the spring, IE) weight ~500lbs in front. If there was a failure I'd expect it there first.

Right now I don't see height with these being an issue. They can adjust up ~21" which would likely give a stock ride height in the rear. If more height needed I could think of a few solutions.

Keep in mind that height is Non-compressed, but I imagine could be maintained by adjusting the preload.

 

[99sho-time]

ive seen proof 2 reports of ebay coilovers failing on our v8 car's. they fail where the coil over slides into the knuckle they rip apart.

 

[gamefanatic]

Its possible, but these feel much stronger than required. Definitely no less thickness of OEM SARCs and it appears to be a solid single piece of metal. Seems like if there was an issue it would not have been related to the manufacturer in this case.

Are the other experiences of the same brand, or just something purchased off ebay?

 

[gamefanatic]

Well, maybe these are a press fit. It wouldn't be trivial to stick some welding wire down the inside and make a couple of tacks or scrape the paint off the outside to add a bead of extra confidence.

 

[99sho-time]

both cases that I saw were maxpseeding rods. it might be something to do with them being modelled after the slow struts.

 

[gamefanatic]

Guess they were taking lessons from Yamaha on construction...

 

[stephen newberg]

smn