Bittersweet Turbo Kit

[Mac]

Does anybody have this kit? http://bittersweetsho.com/turbokitdone.html It looks good and for $3499.

 

[laxmax327]

dunno, not bad, but i think i would rather just piece the kit together myself. but it depends, it doesnt really specifiy exactly what parts are included. i was thinking that this would be great kit for someone w/ not much fabrication knowledge, but then it says welding and stuff required. so i dont know how extensive that is so even w/ that it seems you need to be able to fab stuff up, but if you can anyway, then it'd be cheaper to just custom make the whole thing.

 

[WesternMassSHO]

Yeah, I think if BSS wanted to truely sell these Turbo kits they would list specificially what parts you would be receiving. For instance, what size injectors? What LPH/GPH fuel pump? What brand 80mm MAF? Is the MAF & LPM calibrated correctly? What brands of: BOV/Boost Controller/Boost Gauge (comes with a pod??)

Need some more pic's of the equipment too, show everything off. Pair that with some dyno numbers, maybe a vid or two, and you'll have a product people will want to buy!

 

[SuperchargedSHOguy]

For a complete bolt up kit you can't beat that price.

 

[somedude_001]

if that was offered for the ATX 1 year ago i would have on in my garage right now, infact if someone offered piping for teh ATX i would buy that instead of making my own.

 

[wunfstmax]

2.5" down pipe is what base kits for a honda civic run. I would get a 3" down pipe.

 

[laxmax327]

lol yea, plus its crush bent. so yea. like i said, your still going to need a great knowledge of turbos and fab work to even use that kit. so you might as well just make your own which will prob be a bit better and a lil cheaper.

 

[somedude_001]

lol yea, plus its crush bent. so yea. like i said, your still going to need a great knowledge of turbos and fab work to even use that kit. so you might as well just make your own which will prob be a bit better and a lil cheaper.

i hope your kidding the welding is just to seal up the pipes so youre not leaking boost, pretty much everything else bolts up from the way it looks

 

[SuperchargedSHOguy]

2.5" down pipe is what base kits for a honda civic run. I would get a 3" down pipe.

I would feel fine with only a 2.5" down pipe. You can still make respectable power.
I also run crush bent piping on my Supra and with the price difference between crush/mandrel bent I will stick with my current setup

 

[laxmax327]

ok, well still, the majority off ppl interested in buying this are not capable of welding it themselves. and i wasnt sure that was all that was required anyway, it doesnt say. it may be more extensive than you expect. and i too would use crush bending even if i made my own setup. but would opt to use a larger pipe to compensate for it. i mean yes, it will work decently w/ 2.5. but i think 3 would make a noticable different it how the turbo responds. i dunno, what are the other guys here runnin for their downpipes, i thought i saw 3 inches. not sure... i mean sure its a decent basic setup. but just a few smalls things i personally would do differently. i prefer to do it right the first time and spend the extra few bucks then cut corners and just end up goin in later to replace things anyway. but regardless, were all just assuming things, we really need to see someone actually running these things. i may be completey wrong. im actually pretty interested to see how well these things really do perform.

 

[luigisho]

I'm sure if you talked to Chris (BSS) about what parts you want to change (ie 3" downpipe or mandrel bent) he could put a kit together with a price adjustment. Unless you are just being critical about a hypothetical purchase.

 

[NJSHO]

A turbo kit for 3500 is pretty good. If it was any higher people would start complaining about the price. Everybody always wants an inexpensive turbo kit and this is as close as you are going to get. I do agree that the welding thing is a big draw back, seeing as if I could weld I wouldnt need a kit.

 

[Mac]

i hope your kidding the welding is just to seal up the pipes so youre not leaking boost, pretty much everything else bolts up from the way it looks

And probably a bung in the oil pan for the oil line.

 

[ManySHOs]

The fit and finish isn't the hottest. For the price it is a good deal assuming everything is new (turbo, MAF, injectors, etc). I care more about the fit though; from what I can see in the pictures there might be some issues there. I'm also not a fan of the huge crush bends.

It's a good price but I wouldn't expect it to be trouble free plug n' play. In the long run you may end up paying more as you replace stuff. At the very minimum, I would have the pipes ceramic coated to minimize heat transfer and corrosion.

Ian

 

[Sh03d]

I think it's a good kit. It would be a good idea on his part to include the exact information about his injectors, Maf, waste gate ect.

The welding can easily be done by another shop of you don't know how.

Only thing that seems hard to do is fit a inner cooler or an after cooler into that set up. So you won't really be able to up the boost to much more.

 

[SHO--ripper]

I'm not sure if i'm allowed to post on this topic but the reason i include a 2.5 inch downpipe is because there is no reason to run a 3 inch pipe back into the stock exhaust. If you emailed me saying i want a 3 inch downpipe to go with my 3 inch exhaust that would be fine.

"It's a good price but I wouldn't expect it to be trouble free plug n' play."

ManySHOs i WOULD expect a trouble free plug n' play.

"And probably a bung in the oil pan for the oil line."

Mac that is included in the kit. That is what is meant by EVERYTHING needed for install.

I'll edit that about it needing to be welded. The kits will come ready to be bolted on. Any interest in a 3 person GB for $3300?

 

[SHO--ripper]

Having a turbocharged SHO i know what is needed for a kit. I'll edit the site and list out EVERY part. Also i'll get some dyno #'s at like 6 and 9 psi.

 

[Mac]

I'm guessing you sell the kit? Could you give the specifics as to what injectors, pump, and such you use?

EDIT* I'm too slow at posting. Question answered.
EDIT2* Is it possible to delete parts that we already have for a lower price?

 

[ManySHOs]

ManySHOs i WOULD expect a trouble free plug n' play.

My comment also referred to tuning. You might be able to get it close with a supplied EPROM but to get it right would require a bit of tuning.

Ian

 

[laxmax327]

hey thanks for repling. non of us were really bashing your kit, i actually think its an amazing idea and hope it takes off. but yea, i think you would do a whole lot better if you spent alot of time in listing every single small detail about it. and some dyno proof like you said. and so your saying that there is absolutely no welding required at all? hmm, im actually gettin pretty interested in this kit

edit, im really interested now actually, but now my one major concern is the lpm. who programs them and how can we be sure it will perform good?