Anti-freeze all over!

[Sleeper]

I'm gonna hate myself later for contributing to this madness.... But, That link you pointed out notsosolw, refers continuously to EXCESSIVE idling. Granted, A big diesel engine will idle after start up for a darned long time before it heats up, but a car, which has a power plant that is as different as night and day from an over the road truck, will benefit from warming up before being driven. If you let the internal parts expand to the size that they operate at before you load them, they will last longer. Period. Now, if you let your vehicle idle EXCESSIVELY, say more than 5-10 minutes, it will contaminate your oils faster. Period. When I'm towing and I come off the highway, I definitely do not shut down my diesel if I'm stopping for less than 20 minutes. If I were to shut down after coming off the highway, the outside of my motor would cool at a faster rate than my internals. Bad. Letting it idle continues to circulate coolant, letting the entire motor cool simultaneously. Good. Plus Many diesels have turbochargers on them that REQUIRE a short idle time before shutdown. If you are shortly going to be starting the motor again, Why start it cooling down, parts contracting, only to expand your parts again? Obviously excessive idling is bad, but most idling you see is not excessive. Blah Blah Blah. I think this you think that. Blah Blah.

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

Sleeper:
But, That link you pointed out notsosolw, refers continuously to EXCESSIVE idling.

Yes it does. A few posts above mine requested info as to why big rigs idle for such long times. I was responding to that inquiry.

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

Sleeper:
Blah Blah Blah. I think this you think that. Blah Blah.

Agreed

 

[stevetatro]

Heres the data, start your car up and take off without warming it up then take it to a little jaunt to 5k I bt you see blue smoke. If that isn't enough reasoning what is.

Now you're just being childish. Neither Paul nor anybody else insinuated that it was safe to abuse the car by hitting high revs with cold oil. Everybody knows better than that. You obviously don't know what "data" is.

The proven safest way to operate a car on a cold morning is to start it up, let it run for a minute or two, and then DRIVE GENTLY until everything is up to reasonable temperatures (coolant, oil, tranny fluid, etc.).

Keep arguing, but you don't have any proof of anything you've stated.