2013 PP spark plugs

[SHOCALL]

Having my vehicle serviced at dealer. Service department wants to put SP-580 plugs in my car.
It seems everything I have read on this forum is that the good men and women of this forum are using SP 534 plugs.
Can I please get a couple opinions on this matter?
Also, dealer says they have to pull the down pipes to change PTU fluid. How should I proceed?
Thank you

 

['14SHO]

I’ve heard of dealers wanting these 580s in the F 150s. Not sure if they’re getting away from the 534s or if this is a new equivalent/replacement? Me I don’t see much reason in straying from the trusted 534s. Dealer may just not stock them anymore

 

['14SHO]

As for the PTU most who do it their self go through the passenger side wheel well with no need to remove anything but the wheel. Is your car pp or non pp and did the dealer quote the cost on that labor

 

[SM105K]

Having my vehicle serviced at dealer. Service department wants to put SP-580 plugs in my car.
It seems everything I have read on this forum is that the good men and women of this forum are using SP 534 plugs.
Can I please get a couple opinions on this matter?
Also, dealer says they have to pull the down pipes to change PTU fluid. How should I proceed?
Thank you

They do not need to pull the DP's. I used aluminum foil to cover the DP's and just drained the fluid onto that, then into a bucket.

 

[SHOCALL]

Thank you for the response.
Yes, PP.
I'm having other maintenance done on my car and I am traveling on the west coast so I'm not sure what they are charging me yet. I know the total of the bill, but not the itemization of the bill. I am around 1100 with brakes, brake fluid exchange, oil change, rear diff fluid change, ptu fluid change, and tune up. I really think I am getting a good deal for all work being done.
Please let me know if I am wrong.

 

[SM105K]

Thank you for the response.
Yes, PP.
I'm having other maintenance done on my car and I am traveling on the west coast so I'm not sure what they are charging me yet. I know the total of the bill, but not the itemization of the bill. I am around 1100 with brakes, brake fluid exchange, oil change, rear diff fluid change, ptu fluid change, and tune up. I really think I am getting a good deal for all work being done.
Please let me know if I am wrong.

How many miles? For $1100 they better putting on new rotors and doing coolant flush and putting in a new T-Stat as well.

Just something to think about if you are handy with a wrench and have general knowledge of cars. There are numerous articles about changing the RDU and PTU fluids. They aren't hard to do.

Mobil 1 Oil Change and Filter from Walmart :$40.00
3 Quarts of Redline Lightweight ShockProof Fluid from Amazon: $54 (for PTU and RDU)
1 Quart of Dot 4 Brake Fluid: $8.99
Motorcraft Front PP Brake Pads From Tasca: $64.98
Motorcraft Front PP Brake Rotors From Tasca: (both rotors if needed): $147.66
Motorcraft Rear Brake Pads from Tasca: $63.84
Motorcraft Rear Brake Rotor from Tasca: (both rotors if needed): $120.66

Grand Total if Rotors are being replaced: $500.13 and the work is being done by yourself.

Grand Total with just brake pads: $232.13 if the work is being done by yourself.

For 13 dollars less you can put these on your car as well.

https://smile.amazon.com/d/Brake-Ki...433-1-1-2832--5-0&sr=1-1&ymm=2013:ford:taurus

^ I have those on my car, and it is a huge improvement over the stock pp rotors and pads.

Either way, $600/900 dollars in labor for a brake job, and fluid swap is steep IMO.

 

[SHOdded]

580 is the current listing for SHO plugs. 534 apparently is obsolete.

 

[SHOCALL]

How many miles? For $1100 they better putting on new rotors and doing coolant flush and putting in a new T-Stat as well.

Just something to think about if you are handy with a wrench and have general knowledge of cars. There are numerous articles about changing the RDU and PTU fluids. They aren't hard to do.

Mobil 1 Oil Change and Filter from Walmart :$40.00
3 Quarts of Redline Lightweight ShockProof Fluid from Amazon: $54 (for PTU and RDU)
1 Quart of Dot 4 Brake Fluid: $8.99
Motorcraft Front PP Brake Pads From Tasca: $64.98
Motorcraft Front PP Brake Rotors From Tasca: (both rotors if needed): $147.66
Motorcraft Rear Brake Pads from Tasca: $63.84
Motorcraft Rear Brake Rotor from Tasca: (both rotors if needed): $120.66

Grand Total if Rotors are being replaced: $500.13 and the work is being done by yourself.

Grand Total with just brake pads: $232.13 if the work is being done by yourself.

For 13 dollars less you can put these on your car as well.

https://smile.amazon.com/d/Brake-Kits/K6375-Evolution-Drilled-Slotted-Ceramic/B00O6QIMT0/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1549912883&vehicle=2013-54-697-732--1-6-6-19548-4433-1-1-2832--5-0&sr=1-1&ymm=2013:ford:taurus

^ I have those on my car, and it is a huge improvement over the stock pp rotors and pads.

Either way, $600/900 dollars in labor for a brake job, and fluid swap is steep IMO.

I appreciate the line item breakdown of cost. Tune up was also on the list.
Time is money, am I correct? I work all the time. Literally. When I am not working, I am not going to work. Sorry my brother, that is my life.
We are all different, but I appreciate your view.
Now back on topic.
Thanks Shodded for the 580 help. I am not looking forward to calling my guy Ron at Ford and tell him he is right. He hasn't called me back, so I am hopeful he sourced the 534's.
Thanks all

 

[Johnbigdog]

The w.s.m. says to remove the right catalyst to gain access to the fill plug. If they have not done the job to see what they can get away with, they may remove the pipe. Maybe they just want to do it right so there is no chance to screw it up.

 

[SM105K]

I appreciate the line item breakdown of cost. Tune up was also on the list.
Time is money, am I correct? I work all the time. Literally. When I am not working, I am not going to work. Sorry my brother, that is my life.
We are all different, but I appreciate your view.
Now back on topic.
Thanks Shodded for the 580 help. I am not looking forward to calling my guy Ron at Ford and tell him he is right. He hasn't called me back, so I am hopeful he sourced the 534's.
Thanks all

I 100% percent agree time is money. I work 55 to 60 hours a week as an Executive Chef. I am in the gym another 15 to 20 hours a week, and I travel the world competing in strongman competitions. I go to bed at between 10 and 11 o'clock at night, and I wake up at 0330. My whole world is time management and schedule. When it comes to my personal time (cars, tv, ect) I make time.

 

[6500rpm]

I'm curious, what's the difference between the 534 and the 580 sparkplugs, or is it just a part number change?

 

[SHOdded]

Dunno. The underlying designation is now CYFS12YT4, previously YT3.

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Are they still iridium?

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Nevermind everywhere i looked they were listed as iridium sp-534/sp-580 so I guess just a number change

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

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[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Yikes $9.09 a piece...