1st Oil change

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92FoSHO

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If something ever went wrong with that motor it would void the warranty, just a little heads up.

I work for a local Ford dealership in the Toledo area, If we obtain a vehicle that is under warranty, it goes through a complete inspection to determine the failure. Oil testing is done on the vehicle as well. Anyway, you do not need to use a 5W-20 oil. Some dealerships say it will Void the warranty to scare customers, Mine does not! but it doesn't void it. The only way the dealer can Void your warranty is if they determine it was intentional and NOT accidental or a manufacturing defect that the engine had to make the engine fail. my 06 Honda Civic Si says to use 5w20 and i wont touch it along with my wife's 06 Ford Escape, i run Castrol Syntec 5w30 in all my cars except the SHO i use Syntec 10w30 and they all run great. Not gonna lie i think 5w20 is way to thin and i will not use it. The 5W-20 was specified for your engine to increase the Corporate Average Fuel Economy reported to the Federal Government. So Im gonna say this 'Use what you want' Warranty will not be an issue with Oil.
 
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I don't care what AMSOIL says if you don't use the recommended oil viscosity or approved oil as required by the automaker, you risk voiding your warranty if damage occurs because of using the wrong oil. One more way to void a warranty is to use synthetic oil that's not approved by the automaker.
 
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And now we start linking to the amsoil sites...

1st off, didn't your Ford dealer tell you about the $10.00 oil changes for just buying the new SHO?? Mine did, and they told me I could have any of my vehicles done for the same price. And when you have 6 vehicles like my wife and I do, that's pretty damn cheap. Be it, it is Ford oil, not Amsoil though.

I get coupons for the $29 dollar oil change and rotation, but supposedly, I get 6 free oil changes when the car decides to arrive. I won't use them because when I bought my Marauder, I got the same deal. Went in for the first change and stood by the side of the shop. Saw the tech change my oil, start the car, rev it till it bounced off the rev limiter, pull out and squeal the tires as he drove it back to the service drive. I'll continue to change my oil at home, taking a picture of the oil and filter with a copy of that days newspaper for proof and saving the reciepts.

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Lost cause, guys. Let him be.

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Wow, threads have a way of taking on a life of their own around here.
Didn't realize there were so many intelligent oil specialist here!
I'm out of here!:moon:
 

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Wow, threads have a way of taking on a life of their own around here.
Didn't realize there were so many intelligent oil specialist here!
I'm out of here!:moon:
It's less about being... ah, forget it.

Good luck with the car buddy.
 

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If something ever went wrong with that motor it would void the warranty, just a little heads up.

I work for a local Ford Dealer in the Toledo Ohio area. Dealerships will tell you all that stuff to just scare you. When a vehicle comes to us with Engine failure Yes we take oil samples and send them for immediate testing but it doesn't matter. Oil type will not void a warranty. The reason 5W-20 was specified for your engine is to increase the (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) reported to the Federal Government. I run Castrol Syntec 5w30 in my Wife's 06 Ford Escape, My 06 Civic Si and my 92 MTX. I ran 5w30 in my Civic and Escape under warranty and didn't worry about it because i knew the facts. Use whatever Oil you want guys, Don't let your dealer freak ya out.
 

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You really have to look in the Owners Manual and/or the Maintenance Manual (or whatever they may call it). My LGT has "5W-30" on the oil cap, but when looking in the manual, they have about a half-dozen different oils listed
 

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I'm going to go ahead a wager a guess that it's any API certified 5w20 motor oil.
 

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I'm going to go ahead and wager that the OP cried a little and is no longer participating in this thread...
 

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WSS-M2C930-A

Shall meet all the requirements of the “ILSAC GF-4 Minimum Performance Standard for Passenger Car Engine Oils" plus the following:

3.2.1 ASTM Sequence VG Test Follower Pin Wear, average 30 um, max. (Cyl #8 intake and exhaust)

Ring Gap Increase, average 225 um, max (Cyl #1 and #8)

The following photographs of the VG test engine are required:
· Rocker arm cover and camshaft baffle
· Oil pan and baffle
· Oil pick-up screen
· Cylinder block underside
· Cylinder head valve decks
· Cylinder block front
· Timing chain cover
· Average and worst piston skirts, thrust sides
· Rear seal housing


All required engine tests shall be conducted in accordance with the most recently approved procedures as described in ASTM Standards and the applicable ASTM Standards Research Reports and Information Letters. All tests under surveillance by ASTM must be conducted using test equipment monitored by and calibrated to the requirements of the ASTM Test Monitoring Center.


PHYSICAL/CHEMICAL PROPERTIES

3.3.1 Copper Corrosion 1b max (ASTM D 130 or ISO 2160, 3 h at 100 °C) (Dark Orange)

3.3.2 High Temperature Deposits, mg 30 max (TEOST MHT-4)

3.3.3 Physical Appearance and Odor Shall be clear and bright with no objectionable odor.

3.3.4 Contaminants Shall be free of carcinogens, toxins, metals not removed in refining or from previous use.


QUALIFICATION PROCEDURE

3.4.1 Documentation Supplier must furnish to Fuels and Lubricants Engineering a completed and certified copy of the attached Supplement A, test reports demonstrating full compliance with all the requirements of this specification and a copy of the final ACC Monitoring Agency summary, if available. The need for ACC registration of tests will be determined by Fuels and Lubricants Engineering. The copy of the ACC Monitoring Agency summary should be sent directly from Registration Systems Inc. to Fuels and Lubricants Engineering.

The test reports must include results on both the candidate oil and the appropriate ASTM reference oils. The standard photographs of the test components are considered an essential part of the required test documentation. The oil sample code used for identification in each test document must be consistent. Any deviation in sample code uniformity must be explained and shown on the cover of each test report. All tests must be certified by a qualified and authorized representative of the test facility.

The supplier shall identify all the formulation changes and modifications that occurred in the test program that coincide with the tests listed in the ACC Monitoring Agency summary. Individual formulations should be listed in Supplement A, and for ACC registered tests, identified by the line item number and the formulation code.

3.4.2 "Read Across" Guidelines

It is required that all performance tests be conducted on the final formulation. However, exceptions may be permitted with supportive supplementary data on similar formulations to allow for final approval in the absence of complete testing.


3.4.3 Fleet Testing

Materials which constitute a significant departure from conventional formulations, whether in base stocks, refining processes or additive packages, must be fleet tested, in addition to the requirements outlined herein. These tests must include the type(s) of service judged to be affected by the difference in formulation technology. Fuels and Lubricants Engineering should be consulted prior to testing.


3.4.4 Verification

Fuels and Lubricants Engineering reserves the right to conduct verification testing. If the test results do not support the originally submitted data, the supplier must re-test the product in coordination with Fuels and Lubricants Engineering. This re-test must be conducted and certified by a mutually agreed upon test facility.


3.4.5 Chemical and Physical Properties

Supplier shall furnish appropriate chemical and physical properties as required on Supplement A along with the manufacturing limits that apply to the material as requested.


3.4.6 Performance Requirements

Conformance to the engine test requirements listed in Supplement A will be determined by using Multiple Test Acceptance Criteria (MTAC). All data and reports from the tests used for MTAC must be provided by the supplier. Identify the engine tests on Supplement A that have been used to determine the MTAC results by the corresponding line item number on the ACC Monitoring Agency summary. Fuels and Lubricants Engineering reserves the right to use all tests when averaging in place of MTAC.


3.4.7 Quality Control

Upon engineering approval supplier and Fuels and Lubricants Engineering shall establish mutually agreed upon quality control limits to be listed in Supplement B. These will be used for ongoing product verifications at mutually agreed upon frequencies. The infrared absorption spectra of the approved material shall constitute the reference standard and shall be kept on file. All samples shall produce infrared curves that correspond to the reference standard when tested under the same
conditions as those specified on the master curve.
 

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The maintenance section layer says it can be snyntheic, dino or a blend, but still all 5W20.
 

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Part of the reasoning for specifying viscosity of the oil involves consideration of the bearing clearances. Using a higher number (less viscous) oil can severely impact stresses on the bearings. The new modular motors are running closer tolerance (less clearance) than motors of the past. 5W20 is very appropriate, don't forget that there now is 6 quarts in most systems now instead of 5 from the old days. Race engines typically have more bearing clearance than stock bearings in and effort to pick up horsepower so they use a 50W oil to provide some cushion for bearing life. Also an item to keep in mind is that the modular motors also have a lott of oil in their heads so the need to keep that oil flowing back to the sump is important to keep it clean.
 

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I never get why people second guess the oil recommendation made by the people who designed, built and tested a motor *especially when the superior knowledge comes from someone trying to sell a product.* Ford says 5w30 for my SHO and that's what I use - always have, always will. If I owned a new SHO, it would get 5w20 oil.
 

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Don't see anything in the spec listed addressing specific 20W viscosity.

From my recent experience it is only the US manufacturer's that say only a 5w20 is required.
 

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Don't see anything in the spec listed addressing specific 20W viscosity.

From my recent experience it is only the US manufacturer's that say only a 5w20 is required.

Honda and Toyota and now Some Chryslers spec 5W20 and 0W20 Oils.
 

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