1996 Rose Mist Registry

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If we want to debunk the numbers on the build sheets, I think we may have a simple way. Especially simple for Rosemist owners.

Look at line 91 6 in the report I just posted. It calls for exactly 3 JBL sound systems.

I have a JBL sound system in my 'Documented' Rosemist SHO. That leaves only 2 more cars possible if the list is true. If 3 more people on this registry can come forward and confirm that they have factory JBL sound systems in their cars, then it would be possible to assume that any of the other numbers could be suspect as well.

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I already verified one 1996 Rosemist owner over on TCCA that has the JBL system. That's 2 out of three already. I believe we can verify 2 more.

** yes ! Thanks again Eric. Now we talk ! Oups, the total production for 1996 (4069) don't confirm the numbers on V8SHO.com (5033, later 4730).

Eric, I understand your point but the JBL (I have it too) it's not a good starting point because the lines 91 6 and 91 R have a total of 58... The line 91 6 may be read instead as 3 Rose mist SHO have "only" the JBL without Compact disc changer. Same as for the lines 94 C and 94 3. These lines are interesting. I know here in Canada that we have laws obliging car makers to have Daytime running lights (14). Is it the same case for some others US states guys ? Maybe we have the number of canadians Rose mist here...

Otherwise, maybe we can try counting the SHO without CD changer, or with cellular (I'm one of 10), block heater (only 5) or the 2 with grey cloths seats to verify the numbers.

On a other side, I have contacted the blue oval forum for infos like this and someone answer me that they have possibly the info so in some time maybe we can compare the production numbers... (if it's not the same sheet).

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My car is equipped with the Light Group and DRLs. Sold new in Bellevue, WA.
 

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1) Thanks Josh, it seems that some US states have similar law for Daytime running lights. Maybe the line which Eric told before is the good one for canadian cars (1 !?). But we can see another one in the V8SHO screensaver in Ottawa... (american one ?) CANADIAN FARMBRO, ok, at first sight, it's a Canadian company working with Ford. Here is the link :

http://www.farmbro.com/index.php/about-us

2) Ok guys, forget it about the JBL argument. JBL is a part of 211B package deal sale with sunroof, keyless entry and EATC witch are all mentioned on the sheet. 58 were made with sunroof, 58 were made with keyless entry and 58 were made with EATC. Then, 58 were made with JBL, Rose mist ones all have the 211B package. We must count the ones that don't have a CD changer (3). I have one.
 
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My state doesn't have any law requiring DRLs, simply was an option :)
 

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I'm not sure it's useful for the registry but I just find the VIN number of the Rose mist one in a scrapyard near Denver witch we can see photos on thetruthaboutcars.com.

Owner : Unknown
Location : Denver, CO
Milage: 183 298
VIN : 1FALP54NXTA260342
Built date : 4/96
Interior Color : Grey leather

On my list, this is the last Rose mist SHO (however she is not complete). It's seems that no Rose Mist were made after the 260 *** vin numbers (i.e. Ford didn't make Rose mist SHO after april or may 1996). Maybe the info of Eric was right : It's a one paint tank batch...

The guy holding the registry can correct with that (for the last one in 260 ***, the month of this one and if possible, the total Rose Mist registred) ?

Thanks,

P.S. Hey Josh, you made a mistake with yours mag wheels. ;)
 
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Thanks for posting the info on the RM from The Truth About Cars Article, I have always been intrigued by that article. That car was built on 4/22/96 according to my research. Does anyone know if the car has been destroyed? Also of interest I have the following VIN info:
Kevins mrecoolgar's build date:3/19/96
Matt's (my) build date: 4/19/96
RMJosh's build date: 3/14/96
 
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If we want to debunk the numbers on the build sheets, I think we may have a simple way. Especially simple for Rosemist owners.

Look at line 91 6 in the report I just posted. It calls for exactly 3 JBL sound systems.

I have a JBL sound system in my 'Documented' Rosemist SHO. That leaves only 2 more cars possible if the list is true. If 3 more people on this registry can come forward and confirm that they have factory JBL sound systems in their cars, then it would be possible to assume that any of the other numbers could be suspect as well.

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I already verified one 1996 Rosemist owner over on TCCA that has the JBL system. That's 2 out of three already. I believe we can verify 2 more.

First off the official numbers from Ford confirm 58 Rose Mist 1996 SHOs. That number is not suspect it came from Ford.

Reference the JBL system when looking at the individual option numbers, those numbers are for the number of standalone JBL systems installed in cars, not the number of JBL systems installed. There is a difference. The number in question refers only to Code/Option Number 91 6 Ford JBL Audio System. Ford reports that 3 1996 Rose Mist SHOs were equipped with the option 91 6. Now the JBL Audio System was also available under Option Pkg 210A so any car receiving the JBL system as part of the pkg do not count as having received option 91 6. Therefore there are 3 1996 Rose Mist SHOs that received option 91 6. To identify those cars you need to find the cars that have only the JBL system minus the options in pkg 210A.
 

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Your explanation is good but the package deal is 211B and it's include keyless entry, PATS, sunroof, EATC and JBL system. You can see it, RMJosh posted his sale sheet earlier. As I said before the 58 Rose mist came with the keyless entry, PATS, EATC and JBL, we can deduct from that the 58 had the package then. Did I miss something ? The 3 ones seems have had the "stock JBL" without the CD changer contrary of the 55 others. (55+3 =58) It's the same for Day time running lamps : 14 received DRL while the 44 others have just the lights group. (14+44 = 58)

Or maybe in the 58 lot, 3 have ordered all the 211B options separately... Dealer mistake as it is the first year (?) and mostly, no deal for customers !
 

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P.S. Hey Josh, you made a mistake with yours mag wheels. ;)

Oh it wasn't a mistake! Since the SHO still needs work and is just sitting while I'm driving my SEL, I swapped the wheels and tires. SHO Chromies had new tires, SEL Machined 5 Spokes had bald tires. :)
 

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First off the official numbers from Ford confirm 58 Rose Mist 1996 SHOs. That number is not suspect it came from Ford.

Reference the JBL system when looking at the individual option numbers, those numbers are for the number of standalone JBL systems installed in cars, not the number of JBL systems installed. There is a difference. The number in question refers only to Code/Option Number 91 6 Ford JBL Audio System. Ford reports that 3 1996 Rose Mist SHOs were equipped with the option 91 6. Now the JBL Audio System was also available under Option Pkg 210A so any car receiving the JBL system as part of the pkg do not count as having received option 91 6. Therefore there are 3 1996 Rose Mist SHOs that received option 91 6. To identify those cars you need to find the cars that have only the JBL system minus the options in pkg 210A.

I see what you are saying. I was reading the radio info totally wrong.

I still think the 58 is too low, that is where the 'debunk' mentality came from. But, in total agreement with you, as I said much earlier in the thread - it is the only number we have to go on.
 

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I just ran the numbers on that and it is NOT a Rose Mist. It is a Medium Graphite built 4/24/96.

If I had a nickle for every time a MG was reported as a RM I'd be rich by now. And the trouble that digital cameras seem to have especially with the Rosemist color (colour on the Canadian variants) only helps foster the confusion.
Paint code GK on the driver's door sticker is still the best way I've found to say yes or no to some pictures.
 

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Hi Eric,

Like you said, this color is little confusing. The rose mist one that I reported earlier in the post in a Denver scrapyard witch we can see photos on the site thetruthaboutcar.com, I'm pretty sure that I have found the VIN of it in a another parts site (same year, same mileage, same paint condition, same scrapyard and after check up (phone call there), same rare color too. Notarius checked the VIN on his data base and the car is reported to be Black...(?) But the photos are very clear for this one. Factory mistake or theft situation ? The car was crushed long ago now.
 

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I'd swing by and copy down the VIN, but it's a 2 hour drive for me :p
 

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Do you want to know how much time it will take to me...? :)

By the way, we talked before about the Daytime running lamp option that we have on the sheet, but do you know if all U.S. states require a front licence plate ? Maybe no, (because my father who going often to U.S. says that the majority of the states require them). Here in my province, it's not in use.

Thanks for the info,
 

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