K&N or AirHog Air Filter

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jruss1601

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Is there really a difference? I know one is purple and one is orange. The K&N is million mile guaranteed and the AirHog is 250,000 mile guaranteed but i dont plan owning my car for either of those milestones. The AirHog is about half the price. I have seen the demostrations at Advanced Autos with the K&N and ping pong ball versus a regular air filter but AirHog doesnt set those demos up. I imagine they are made the same way but have different names and thats the only difference. I have a 95 SHO ATX with 106k on it right now. Anyone got any good things to say about the AirHog or a comparison? Thanks
 

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Paper x3

The digital microscope pics I took of paper, K&N, and a shop towel should still be around somewhere. The K&N flows well because it doesn't filter worth a crap thanks to the huge holes in the media. Just hold one up to a light and you'll see them.

Once the K&N gets dust-loaded it filters okay, but then the flow is the same as anything else.

IMHO, bottom line, if you want the filter to actually filter out the dust, get a paper filter.
 

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I thought the k&n was better at both!!! I have alway's had a k&n air filter! Then I just spent alot of money.
 

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Yes, I'm sure K&N makes a really crappy product, and that's why it's the #1 selling filter on the market. Put a piece of plywood in there, it wouldn't let any dust thru..........
Some people are such sceptics...........
 

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Yes, I'm sure K&N makes a really crappy product, and that's why it's the #1 selling filter on the market. Put a piece of plywood in there, it wouldn't let any dust thru..........
Some people are such sceptics...........


Well, someone buys into the marketing....:wave:
 

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Yes, I'm sure K&N makes a really crappy product, and that's why it's the #1 selling filter on the market. Put a piece of plywood in there, it wouldn't let any dust thru..........
Some people are such sceptics...........

Well, when the marketing keeps repeating in your ear often enough, some people start to believe it. That's not at all unusual.

Here's a good reference, but there've been a number over the years just like it:

http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=180100

Basically, whenever anybody independent bothers to actually try measuring the filtering capability of K&N media and flow after dust loading, the results are always the same: they don't live up to the hype.

So I dug up the pics I took myself when I looked into this quite a few years ago:

First three pics of typical holes in a K&N filter, at only 60x magnification,

KN_60x_tl.jpg

KN_60x_tl3.jpg


These are what you can see quite easily just by holding a K&N filter up to a light or to a bright sky. K&N says in some of their literature or on various sites that these are okay because there are fibers going across these to trap dust, but it's clear in these shots that that's not the case, as you can easily see all the way through. To more clearly demonstrate that these are genuine, let-a-bus-through holes, here's a backlit shot, also at 60x:

KN_60x_bl.jpg


For comparison, here's a common blue paper shop towel at 60x:

Shoptowel_60x.jpg


It'd make a better dust filter than a K&N, but it wouldn't hold up very well.

For comparison, here's a generic, cheap paper filter at 60x:

Paper_60x.jpg


The focal depth on the microscope is pretty narrow, so I could only shoot the top of the pleats. Still, it's clear that there aren't holes anything close to what the K&N has. I couldn't do a backlit shot exposing holes as the paper blocked the light too much, and there weren't any holes.

Here's a closer look at the paper media at 200x, just to be sure about the holes:

Paper_200x.jpg


The paper media, just by visual inspection, will clearly do a much, much better job of keeping dust out of the intake. Flow measurements, like shown in the cited website, don't show much difference. A paper filter with deep pleats will have many, many times the surface are of a K&N, which typically has big holes and shallow pleats, and will, therefore, make a pretty good compromise between stopping dust and allowing air through. A number of folks over the years have done back-to-back dyno tests with a paper filter and NO filter and seen negligible difference on a SHO. Why people think a K&N will give them an advantage worth the price has always baffled me, especially given the reduction in filtering capability.

FWIW, I live in Arizona, so dust is a big deal. In more humid or low-dust climates people have done oil analyses and demonstrated that a K&N filter was performing satisfactorily in many cases. But is it enough "better" to justify the cost? I've not seen evidence of that, but I do see a risk in using them due to the potential for poor filtration, especially when they're kept clean.

FWIW, YMMV, don't try this at home, etc., etc.
 

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That is very interesting stuff. I will stick with my fram unless I can find an AC Delco. I would rather loose 5 HP than loose 220 HP when the dust scores the **** out of my block and have to do a rebuild....
 

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FWIW, I know its not the same car but i would think the difference would still be the same. I dont have the exact numbers, but a shop did a test on a flow bench of an Ls1 intake. They tested a paper filter, no filter, and a K&N filter. Paper filter flowed the worst, followed by no filter, followed by the K&N. Yea you read that right the K&N actually flowed better then no filter.

As for the filtration part. Just judging by how quickly the K&N filter gets dirty as opposed to a paper filter I would say it filters better. I would have to clean the K&N way before I would have had to change a paper filter. Lets not forget the oil that goes on the K&N, im sure it has a purpose, its not just there for color. i.e. regular dust rag vs. swiffer rag. just my .02
 

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Yes, I'm sure K&N makes a really crappy product, and that's why it's the #1 selling filter on the market. ...........
Some people are such sceptics...........

Yes, I'm sure FRAM makes a really crappy product, and that's why it's the #1 selling OIL filter on the market. :snicker::snicker:

Point is, the company who advertises the most and spends the most on promotion through sponsorship money is not always the best product, at least for street use where the air is dust laden.
 

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I heard hail screen works well. just cut the piece the same size as the filter and drop it in! I bet that sounds SWEET!
 

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I have no problems with my k&n it catches everything. If you clean and oil them
the way they were meant to be used they work good. If you don't want to clean
your filter......get paper....
 

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Well, it looks to me that the AirHog is Fram's answer to K&N. As for differences, better or worse, I really couldn't tell you, I've never used one before. I have used a K&N before, heck I still have my old one on the shelf in the garage that I replaced with a paper one. I think the comparisons made in the thread were made because of the similarities between the AirHog and the K&N. I believe the quality of the AirHog would probably be similar to K&N, I believe that the costs would be similar, I believe that the HP gains (a whole 1/2 HP if that) would also be about the same. I also believe that they would be equally ineffective in properly filtering the crap from entering my engine.

But I digress, I've never even looked at one and I'm only going on what I see on their website.
 

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