I have a 2010 Taurus show with PP. The brakes have never been very good even when I switch to wilwoods on the front but I think the main problem is the master cylinder. I'm going to replace it with the 2013 master cylinder and vacuum booster. I checked into this a while back and also purchase the brake line required for this upgrade. Has anybody done this upgrade? Anything I should know before heading in to it?
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Yes, i have done it a couple of times. The master cylinder has a different size piston and bore from MY 2010 to MY 2013, this is due to the rear caliper piston bore is different between MY's. If you want the pedal to feel correct you should replace the rear calipers and matched vented rear discs from a 2013 MY. The front calipers from MY 2010 to 2013 are the same piston bore and I assume your Wilwoods are the same piston bore.
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SHOinVa
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I just came across this thread and I have a question, maybe you guys can help me out. I have a 2012 and I'm about to replace the brakes with 2013+ calipers/rotors, I assume its worth the money and will make a difference. After reading your post I was wondering if I should also replace the master cylinder and booster, and is it a direct fit bolt on or there modification required. Thanks in advance for your help, have a great day everyone.
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I can't say how it would feel with new master and booster but my upgraded +13 brakes feel good.
SHOinVa
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Greetings, - I could use some help, I was rereading this post and I may be missing something.
I've ordered 2013+ master cylinder, booster, calipers, and rotors but I just saw where I need a brake line, can anyone tell me which brake line I need for the upgrade.
- I have tried searching and I will continue to do so, but if someone could help me out with the information, it would be most appreciated.
I'm also going to replace the bearing while its torn down, (any thoughts)
As always Thanks, for any help.
Charlie
aaron240
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I have low mileage OEM Motorcraft 2013+ PP front brake calipers, associated mounting brackets and hoses for sale if you are contemplating doing the 2010 to 2013 factory brake swap.
SHOinVa
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LOL I should have posted this sooner, I just purchased most of what I need from Rock Auto, and I think that includes all the brackets. If I'm reading this thread right, it seems I need a different brake line to swap out the master cylinder.
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BUT Thanks for the offer.
aaron240
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Your welcome!
SHOinVa
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Thanks for the information, I'm sure my shop will figure it out but its always better to have the solutions when they have problems. The first post mentioned a required brake line, so I wanted to have it in hand if it was needed. Anyway thanks again.
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DouglasB_SHO
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What are you asking for the 2013+ PP calibers and mounts? I'm looking at upgrading the brakes on my 2011 non-PP. I'm in Arlington VA for shipping cost estimate. Message me if you don't want to post the price openly.
aaron240
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I’m just looking for 1/2 of what they retail for new.
This is why I started this post. I already have wilwoods on the front but was looking to upgrade more because the pedal is very soft. Maybe the master cylinder is bad I don't know. But I bought these parts about 5 years ago and am getting ready to have a mechanic install them. So I wanted to make sure I had all the correct parts and knew of any problems putting them on.
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SHOinVa
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I'm not sure why but this upgrade has me nervous.
Anyway I hope Airborne is right and you can just bend the brake line, because right now no one has them in stock, and she's do in the shop next week.
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Anyway I hope Airborne is right and you can just bend the brake line, because right now no one has them in stock, and she's do in the shop next week.
OH Well it will get worked out one way or another, thanks for the help everyone.
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aaron240
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That price comes to $220, for front calipers, caliper brackets, and brake hoses.
DouglasB_SHO
Former owner 2011 SHO
I know the 2013+ rotors are larger. How many pistons in the calipers? (My apologies is this was mentioned elsewhere in this thread.)
aaron240
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2 pistons per caliper but larger diam
The piston's diameter is the same, do you mean brake rotor diameter?
I took mine to the shop Monday to have the brake booster / master cylinder and appropriate brake line installed. They installed the booster and master cylinder but the brake line shank was too short it wouldn't seat the flared. They went ahead and bent the existing pipe into submission. Unfortunately it didn't solve my soft brake problem. Mechanic suggested I try different pad material on the wellwoods. I'm going to buy some EBC yellow stuff for the front and rear. The wellwoods are so hard they weren't wearing but we're wearing down the wilwood rotor. More information to follow
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