Phenolic Spacer installs - ANY UPDATES for us non Phenolic spacers :)

[GotGrip?]

View attachment 15479 View attachment 15480 View attachment 15481 Well the only positive results I have are when I went to the track I iced the car down with 3 bags of ice for 35 min or so. Turned the car off and on, off and on in the staging lanes. Ran an 11.90. Then hot lapped it, was forced to run left lane only, had to wait for cars including myself to drive into left lane from right and it was slow and steady movement so left the car on. Guy in front me of me screwed up his launch they let him go again...I sat idling, then he screwed his trans up, they cleaned it up as I continued to idle. IAT2 climbed to 147 and stayed there. Ran an 11.67 after the car got hot.

In 3 Dragy runs since then all with driving around for 15 min or so prior and no cool down or anything I ran 11.88, 11.86, and 11.84 which was running last years tune, then two tune revisions. So everything extremely consistent and like I mentioned above...improved time even though the car got much much hotter.

If you consider the above it’s promising to say the least. I don’t think you’ll get a “wow” factor from the phenolic spacer...but excellent consistency

Yeeeeaahh.... You're gonna need to clean up that .02-.04, that is just unacceptable.

 

[High on Ethanol]

Do you believe this has to do with the phenolic spacer? Or more to do with the massive up front intercooler, damn near freezing the air coming in?

Devil’s advocate of course, is there evidence of all the same modifications (minus the phenolic spacer) making a worse pass?


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I believe you are correct. I doubt that spacer adds any benefit unless it was due to longer runner length. This is one of those "those SHO guys will buy anything" mods in my book. Otherwise you would see them for the f150

 

[Michigan-SHO]

I believe you are correct. I doubt that spacer adds any benefit unless it was due to longer runner length. This is one of those "those SHO guys will buy anything" mods in my book. Otherwise you would see them for the f150

lol, give it time... those rednecks will buy anything if it’s marketed right. Hahahahaha, we Sophisticated SHO owners demand it has never been marketed or proven before, that’s the secret to SHO market success.


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[802SHO]

Do you believe this has to do with the phenolic spacer? Or more to do with the massive up front intercooler, damn near freezing the air coming in?

Devil’s advocate of course, is there evidence of all the same modifications (minus the phenolic spacer) making a worse pass?


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Yes and no. This is same road before the spacer but also my new tune that was weaker...I may not be a good example lol! But I don’t see worse performance with it hotter? If that means anything. I think inconclusive fits it best.

 

[FiveLeeter918]

Its a hard mod to say "the spacer did this"

Its cheapish, if you're pulling the manifold for any reason add it.

Its more about consistency from one run to the next, not much of a noticeable max effort modification.

 

[FiveLeeter918]

I believe you are correct. I doubt that spacer adds any benefit unless it was due to longer runner length. This is one of those "those SHO guys will buy anything" mods in my book. Otherwise you would see them for the f150

Isn't the F150 a composite manifold?

 

[High on Ethanol]

Isn't the F150 a composite manifold?

If by f150 you mean better in every way, then yes....yes....YES!

 

[High on Ethanol]

Also...this belongs everywhere.... gt500 raptor confirmed. FCA TRX WHO?

 

[FiveLeeter918]

If by f150 you mean better in every way, then yes....yes....YES!

No I mean composite as in plastic... lol

 

[High on Ethanol]

No I mean composite as in plastic... lol

Yep, also electric water pump, dual injection, lighter impellers, computer controlled wastegates, variable displacement oil pump, vct on exhaust and intake, better HPFP and better lpfp, and maybe that's enough for now.....but to answer your question yes to composite manifold.

 

[Michigan-SHO]

Yep, also electric water pump, dual injection, lighter impellers, computer controlled wastegates, variable displacement oil pump, vct on exhaust and intake, better HPFP and better lpfp, and maybe that's enough for now.....but to answer your question yes to composite manifold.

But I can totally take you on the twisties.


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[High on Ethanol]

But I can totally take you on the twisties.


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Maybe, I'd be interested in trying someday. I've been debating a lowering kit with mega wide tires like 315/35r20 all around.

 

[Ecoboost_xsport]

Maybe, I'd be interested in trying someday. I've been debating a lowering kit with mega wide tires like 315/35r20 all around.

I have been DYING to see somebody do a slammed, even-wider-body, fat, low profile tires, Raptor. Some Ken Block type shit, lol. When it comes to trucks, I was always a slammed-as-low-as-you-can, c-notch frame rails fan-boy, lol. Despite it pretty much removing any offroad capability the Raptor has (is anybody offroading these things?), would look pretty sick, in my humble opinion.

 

[Ecoboost_xsport]

Do you believe this has to do with the phenolic spacer? Or more to do with the massive up front intercooler, damn near freezing the air coming in?

Devil’s advocate of course, is there evidence of all the same modifications (minus the phenolic spacer) making a worse pass?


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This is another instance where calculating Boost Air Density could isolate any gains that spacer may or may not be providing (this requires a before and after run with no other mods). I see the only possible thing this spacer is doing is isolating (although not much) the heat from the head being transferred to the IM. If even just a degree or 2, lol. That's the only reason I'm trying it out. Tbh, im more concerned about this thing becoming fragile after XXXXX miles and breaking apart, causing either leaks or, worse, something getting sucked into the engine...

...I've spent money on dumber shit...lol...so let's see where this takes me, haha

 

[High on Ethanol]

I have been DYING to see somebody do a slammed, even-wider-body, fat, low profile tires, Raptor. Some Ken Block type shit, lol. When it comes to trucks, I was always a slammed-as-low-as-you-can, c-notch frame rails fan-boy, lol. Despite it pretty much removing any offroad capability the Raptor has (is anybody offroading these things?), would look pretty sick, in my humble opinion.

This is what I'm thinking

 

[Ecoboost_xsport]

This is what I'm thinking View attachment 15484

Can I like a post more than once? lol...

Thats right up my alley.

 

[High on Ethanol]

This is another instance where calculating Boost Air Density could isolate any gains that spacer may or may not be providing (this requires a before and after run with no other mods). I see the only possible thing this spacer is doing is isolating (although not much) the heat from the head being transferred to the IM. If even just a degree or 2, lol. That's the only reason I'm trying it out. Tbh, im more concerned about this thing becoming fragile after XXXXX miles and breaking apart, causing either leaks or, worse, something getting sucked into the engine...

...I've spent money a dumber shit...lol...so let's see where this takes me, haha

You think like me or vice versa

 

[Michigan-SHO]

I have been DYING to see somebody do a slammed, even-wider-body, fat, low profile tires, Raptor. Some Ken Block type shit, lol. When it comes to trucks, I was always a slammed-as-low-as-you-can, c-notch frame rails fan-boy, lol. Despite it pretty much removing any offroad capability the Raptor has (is anybody offroading these things?), would look pretty sick, in my humble opinion.

I travel up to silver lake sand dunes here in northern Michigan quite regularly, I promise you, the Raptor is off-roading like a mother f*****. I have a 1000R Can Am side by side and those Raptors **** me in every way.


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[Ecoboost_xsport]

I travel up to silver lake sand dunes here in northern Michigan quite regularly, I promise you, the Raptor is off-roading like a mother f*****. I have a 1000R Can Am side by side and those Raptors **** me in every way.


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Awesome! I live in Cali, so all the big tire trucks out here are just Mall Crawling Bro Dozers, so I never see that. I hate that shit, one reason I'm a slammed truck guy, haha...

 

[Michigan-SHO]

Awesome! I live in Cali, so all the big tire trucks out here are just Mall Crawlers, so I never see that. I hate that shit, one reason I'm a slammed truck guy, haha...

Northern Cali? Cause Glamis is rocking for Raptor shenanigans


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