Engineering student hoping to buy 2013-16 SHO

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iroebuck

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My name is Isaac Roebuck, I'm an engineering student from West Michigan, and I'm looking into getting a decent, higher performance daily for once I graduate high school in a few months.

...I know, when you read that you probably immediately think I'm looking to spend daddy's money on a new car for graduation. But I assure you this is unfortunately not the case. I actually work as a CNC programmer at a local tool & die company, and I'll be starting collage to study mechanical engineering in the fall of this year.

My goal is to build a fairly sizable down payment working over the summer, as my position will allow me to work up to 70 hours a week in the busiest periods. I'll probably be looking to buy around October and finance the remainder to start building some solid credit. The collage I'll be attending allows me to work half of each school year in a paid position and earn credit for it, which should make it possible to maintain a reasonable car payment.

That said, as I'm nowhere near a full blown engineer yet and far from a six figure salary, budget will obviously still play a major factor in my purchase. With current gen 2013s and 14s starting to come down in value, they seem to be finally entering my reach and I project that I will likely be able afford a somewhat lower end example if everything goes to plan. I like that generation specifically because I love the post facelift styling, and also because this is likely to be my daily for quite some time I want to get as new of an example as I can.

I hope to become an involved member of the SHO community through the buying process and especially after purchase.

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Introductions out of the way, I think a bit of my vehicle related background would be in order. These are my three most notable vehicles that I have owned.


Starting with my current daily:
"Katrina" - 2004 Ford Expedition - Edie Bauer - 5.4L - 4x4
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As you can see, not exactly in prime condition, some TLC needed but still a damn solid truck, easily the best vehicle I have owned to date. It just works as a vehicle, every time and does that exceptionally well. She's been to **** and back and still keeps haulin' like there's no tomorrow. I try and go easy on her these days but she's had a hard life in general. Was issued a cert of destruction in Louisiana in '05 after sustaining flood damage in the wake of hurricane Katrina...hence the name. That's also why it's spent the last 14 years systematically having each and every part of the electrical system replaced piece by piece.




Next, my very much failed project:
1998 BMW 328i - E36 - Sport Cabrio
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Picked it up for a grand last summer, literally almost anything you can think of was in perfect condition, except of course the engine, It had "some sort of head/gasket trouble". Nothing to be very surprised about and I was prepared to pay for the head replacement. However the machinist that inspected it cleared it of cracks, before I found out that he determined this via eyeball inspection. Turns out it had a crack in a valve seal on the #2 cylinder, causing a misfire by fouling out the plug when it dumped loose water and oil onto it. Next thing I know the oil pan is a vat of chocolate milk and that was the end of any plans I had for it. Probably just going to liquidate it in the spring by any means necessary. Should'a bought a Ford I guess, lol.




Finally, my last marginally successful performance car.
"Leijonna" - 1993 Ford Mustang - LX - 5.0L - 5 Speed
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Long story short, it was a Foxbody. Modded to the teeth, dilapidated from 25 solid years of brutal abuse, requiring far more investment in cosmetic repairs than it will ever be worth, and still fast as ****...so yeah...a Foxbody. Probably made about 320(ish), thing was scary but couldn't help but love the **** out of it. Alas, blew a head gasket due to a faulty temp gauge and water pump. Didn't have the time or resources at the time to deal with it so I sold her off. Got a grand out of it, still I'd say not bad considering I only paid $1650 for it with a working engine. Oh, and "Leijonna" is Finnish for "Lion", thought it was fitting, especially if you actually heard it run.



Well that's about it. If you've made it this far, you're much more patient than I am, thanks for having me in the community and I look forward getting more involved in the future.
 

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Welcome fellow engineering student! The SHO is a good car with great bang for the buck, if you get a good one. A well maintained low mile one will be more expensive though. They dont fail often, but when they do it's usually expensive. Look for PTU issues, leaky turbos, and timing chain. That's what I've heard. Spend some time in the 4th gen section and on the FB SHO owners club for more info.

Or if you're handy with a wrench you can get a clean gen1/2 and pay outright and not have a car payment. :naughty1:
 

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Hey Kid, you have a solid plan....now stick to it. There is a ton of information around these parts. Just like blk/blk said find a low mileage clean on. Don't be afraid to travel as well. I am seeing deals here in AZ, Ca, and Texas. That means those cars are usually rust free. I bought my 2013 a year ago with 52k for $20,900.

Also, first things first. Change all of the fluids. Oil, Coolant, Power Transfer Unit (PTU), and Rear Diff Unit (RDU). This will pay dividends later. Depending on my mileage, I would also start a trans fluid cycle. 5 out quarts out, 5 in every oil change for at least 5 cycles. Remember, these cars can get expensive mod and to fix. They are an investment.

If you want some more in depth information, check out my Goals/Ownership Thread here:

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/couple-of-goals.138235/

I am basically doing everything to my SHO and documenting it along the way.

Good luck.
 

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the #1 rule for any used car purchase: do all maintenance work first, before you even consider modifications. That means (in addition to what SM105K mentions above) tires, brakes & brake fluid, filters, suspension bushings, etc. so you know what you have to start with.
 

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Welcome fellow engineering student! The SHO is a good car with great bang for the buck, if you get a good one. A well maintained low mile one will be more expensive though. They dont fail often, but when they do it's usually expensive. Look for PTU issues, leaky turbos, and timing chain. That's what I've heard. Spend some time in the 4th gen section and on the FB SHO owners club for more info.

Or if you're handy with a wrench you can get a clean gen1/2 and pay outright and not have a car payment. :naughty1:

Yeah I've heard nothing but good about them, I have an uncle with a 2012 and he strongly recommends it. I've driven a few vehicles with the 3.5L V6, one was a regular Taurus, and another was a 2019 F-150 with an EcoBoost, both were exceptional. My goal will be of course to find the lowest mileage and best condition possible, and I am willing to spend what it takes to get what I would at least consider to be a good example. But again, my funds are somewhat limited so I'll be spending some time later on this year to locate a good compromise.

As far at the 1st/2nd gen, although I definitely have a lot of respect for the originals, I've never personally cared for the styling as much as the new ones. That and what I'm really looking for is a solid daily, my commute can extend to 100+ miles per day. So for this the creature comforts of a newer car would be much more desirable, as well as just being newer and less worn.
 

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Hey Kid, you have a solid plan....now stick to it. There is a ton of information around these parts. Just like blk/blk said find a low mileage clean on. Don't be afraid to travel as well. I am seeing deals here in AZ, Ca, and Texas. That means those cars are usually rust free. I bought my 2013 a year ago with 52k for $20,900.

Also, first things first. Change all of the fluids. Oil, Coolant, Power Transfer Unit (PTU), and Rear Diff Unit (RDU). This will pay dividends later. Depending on my mileage, I would also start a trans fluid cycle. 5 out quarts out, 5 in every oil change for at least 5 cycles. Remember, these cars can get expensive mod and to fix. They are an investment.

If you want some more in depth information, check out my Goals/Ownership Thread here:

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/couple-of-goals.138235/

I am basically doing everything to my SHO and documenting it along the way.

Good luck.
the #1 rule for any used car purchase: do all maintenance work first, before you even consider modifications. That means (in addition to what SM105K mentions above) tires, brakes & brake fluid, filters, suspension bushings, etc. so you know what you have to start with.

Yup maintenance is definitely always a priority for me, at least on vehicles I care about. And although I do definitely plan on doing some modifications, I'll probably keep them pretty restrained. Upgraded exhaust & intake, tune, maybe a performance break kit, that sort of thing; as well as some small and tasteful aesthetic items.
 

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