So who's not really impressed with the new SHO?

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RonPorter

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I disagree that our V6 was unremarkable. There were V6's in 1989, but none with a 4000rpm power band like the SHO motor had with the very innovative dual runner intake. All other V6's at the time, like Acuras, did not have a dual runner intake nor a 4000 rpm power band with dual torque peaks. It was the wide power band that gave the SHO the performance that could only be exceeded by a V12 750 BMW and 3.5L M5 BMW. All other sedans smelled our exhaust.

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You can also look at MB, the Italians, and other Japanese. To get down in the weeds and narrowly specify that it was innovative on a dual-runner V6 is stretching. Other mfrs had it (look across the pond). Maybe not V6s, though (like Porsche).

Sure, the SHO was one of the quickest in it's day for a sport sedan. But, having had an interest in imports, as well as motorcycles, before I ever bought the new '89, other than looking cool (the intake) the engine technology wasn't new stuff to me.

IMO they HAD to do a dual-runner intake. After having owned a car from the mid 80s without it, as well as having one of my SHOs ECMs crap out and leave them open, the SHO never would have gotten out of it's own way.
 

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I will tell you what I don't like about the SHO...

The Jukebox feature. It is a complete joke of an interface. The only way to save songs is via CD. And if their burned CD's (like from Itunes) forget about Gracenote recognizing the song name or artist. Hence your left with 2400 songs with no name or artist.

Who ever designed that interface , should be shot.
 

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8000rpms not enough for you? And who told you a SHO engine can not handle 30psi? Forged pistons are not 'heavy heavy' mods. The Yamaha engine is a VERY robust unit.

True it is a vary little robust little power plant. But when you have this small ricers running around tapping 9000+, handling it on a daily basis, and its dirt cheep to hop them up to it.... But i don't really care about that i want a practical fun car. That's why i like the Taurus decent amount of room (aka i don't have to become a contortionist to get in and out of it), a beautiful powerful engine, and insurance isn't bad like others. With that said id rather have a gen 1-3 than a new 2010 SHO because of that fact. It just doesn't seam right opening the hood of a SHO and not seeing beautiful intake runners. I now must get ready for a lovely day of snow shoveling and relaxation... Marry X-mas to all. :wave:
 

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You can also look at MB, the Italians, and other Japanese. To get down in the weeds and narrowly specify that it was innovative on a dual-runner V6 is stretching. Other mfrs had it (look across the pond). Maybe not V6s, though (like Porsche).

Sure, the SHO was one of the quickest in it's day for a sport sedan. But, having had an interest in imports, as well as motorcycles, before I ever bought the new '89, other than looking cool (the intake) the engine technology wasn't new stuff to me.

IMO they HAD to do a dual-runner intake. After having owned a car from the mid 80s without it, as well as having one of my SHOs ECMs crap out and leave them open, the SHO never would have gotten out of it's own way.

My memory may be faulty, but Yamaha had a patent on the dual runner intake. IIRC Porsche and MB did not have thier variable length intakes until after the release of the SHO. I usually associate being first in a new design makes you innovative.
I agree the other parts of the engine such as DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder are not new techology.

Bob
 

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I will tell you what I don't like about the SHO...

The Jukebox feature. It is a complete joke of an interface. The only way to save songs is via CD. And if their burned CD's (like from Itunes) forget about Gracenote recognizing the song name or artist. Hence your left with 2400 songs with no name or artist.

Who ever designed that interface , should be shot.

It reads the ID3 tags just fine from my iTunes burned mixes?
 

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I just saw one in person today for the first time up close. I actually really liked the thing. I thought they were nice or okay from the pics and videos but I just went to the dealership since they were closed. I thought it was just a regular Taurus at first when I glanced at it going by originally; then I pulled up to it in my SHO and realized it was a SHO. Looks kinda funny when you set a 90 next to a 2010 for comparison.

Maybe I'll consider one in 2 yrs when they start to depreciate quite a bit. I don't have $44k to spend on a car. I am tempted to go drive it tomorrow but don't feel like dealing with the sales person haggle.

I like the "light up" keyless entry on the B-pillar; that's really cool. I want to see how reliable these things are first before I consider one. The wife's Milan has already been in for minor warranty work on a pulley and it's making noise again. Still not sold on Ford's new reliability claims yet.

Still though...I liked the car alot more than I thought. I could easily see myself driving one of these.
 

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I fianlly got a chance to drive one today. I really liked it, but I didn't love it.
The exterior looks very good, but it does need a bit more to set it apart from the other Taurus models. If there was another specialer edition, I'd like the looks more.
Why is this car so tall? I don't think I could wash the whole roof, but not becuase I am short. Seriously, it's SO tall. Maybe I'm just used to smaller cars. The 20" wheels make it look a little shorter, but then I stood next to it. High COG? Fo shizzle.
The hidden keypad is pretty cool.

I love the interior. The heated/cooled/massaging seats are great, the materials are comfy. If we're bashing Pontiac, I will say that the dash and stuff looks WAY better than the G8, which just screams rental. I like the adjustable pedals, the steering wheel feel and the guages. The 7 mood light colors might be a bit much, but whatever. I like all the tech stuff, like the back-up camera, the thing that senses cars when you back out from between 2 Excursiditions, the blind spot warning. All good stuff. The adaptive cruise control is a bad idea. That's gonna cause problems. People aren't responsible enough for that. Well, SHO drivers will not set it and start the Sunday NY Times crossword puzzles, but someone will.

All the voice activated stuff is cool, but more steps to accomplish simple tasks. I didn't try ripping CDs or plugging in a thumb drive, but it sounds cool, as long as it keeps the music the way I have it organized. If not, it's just gonna be a mess. The nav seems better than most. Probably a lot better than the one in my VW.

I drove it in heavy rain. It goes fast, for a pig. Yes, it is a fast pig, and I guess all the tech stuff kind of takes its toll on the weight. I didn't get to mash it from a stop, but I did a few pulls from about 45 mph. It did pretty much what I expected. I have a 34 hp AWD Audi wagon 4000 lb pig for comparison. The Audi's TQ is lower, but it seems to accellerate a bit better. I'd have to drive it a bit more to sort that one out. This sounds pretty irresponsible, because it is, but the car did not feel anywhere near as stable as the Audi does at 80 mph in the rain. It just wasn't as confidence inspiring. I would really like to drive the SHO in the snow, to see how the AWD really does, but I don't think it's going to meet my AWD expectations. My wagon is phenomenal in the snow. That's a lot to live up to.
The visibility from inside is kind of...confining? I think it has really thick A, B and C pillars, which makes it feel pretty enclosed, and reduces visibility a bit. It has some tech to help it out, which is good.
The exhaust note is sweet, but the stock setup only gives you a hint of what it could sound like. I can't wait to hear one with a more open exhaust.

I will not be buying one, but not necessarily because of anything I listed here or even the price. ($40K is a bit much, but I've done worse) We just don't have a spot for it, in more than one sense. The Audis take the garage, the Jetta gets the driveway. I don't want to leave a new SHO in the driveway. The A6 is my wife's baby. Whe drieves it to work every day. The Jetta gets way better mileage, and diesel is occasionally pretty cheap. I have a long drive to work. The wagon is my ski/bike/camping car, and it's my baby.

I will own another SHO, but it could easily be a toss-up between a TC'd Gen I/II and the Gen IV, or whatever it's called. Of course, by the time I buy one, you guys will have figured out all kinds of fun stuff to do to the new ones.
 

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I would really like to drive the SHO in the snow, to see how the AWD really does, but I don't think it's going to meet my AWD expectations. My wagon is phenomenal in the snow. That's a lot to live up to.

I haven't driven mine in heavy snow on the road, but I did park it on a friend's lawn, about 8" of snow and it went through it like a 4 x 4 truck. I do have Blizzaks on it too. I would have no reservations about going out in a storm with it.
 

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I agree with Diesel Dan

I've read most of the posts on this thread enough to get the gist of pro and con on the '10. I went to our local Ford dealership and looked inside and out at the car. I'm in the "I wasn't impressed enough to buy one" circle. I know one of the owners who told his head salesman to "make it happen and keep him in the loop" and could afford the payment if I did nothing else in the way of entertainment.
That being said, I own a 91+ and love the car with all my being and this new model doesn't do it for me. Too obtuse and not even unique in any way. A new Lincoln was right next to it and I couldn't tell the diff (except the Lincoln was ten grand more for the almost exact same car.). I didn't even want to test drive it. There's my opinion. It's kind of like going to a concert of a band I used to love when I was in my twenties. They tried to be the same, appearance wise, but it was just more make up. I'm sure it's fast, but it's not a SHO in my mind. I have the 91 running like new and am more than happy with it. I have a 98 Bonneville SE I'm also very happy with, that's mostly my daily driver. IMO, the SHO lost it's edge in 94. But, and that's a big but, that's just my opinion.
 
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You said you didn't want to test drive it. Did you? Nothing is like the old SHO anymore and I wanted a manual shift and went elsewhere. But I did drive one and did like it quite a bit.

One thing I learned is not to give an absolute opinion until you've experienced something firsthand...
 

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I absolutely love it, the exterior look, the interior is fabulous and it is comparable to other more expensive AWD Twin Turboed sedans. Seriously no sport sedan is completey perfect in every aspect so try and cut the new SHO some slack. I praise the big blue oval for listening to it's faithful followers especially in the economic times that are upon us.

Honestly I do not think Ford had full intentions of this new SHO being a total track star or smoke any and all sedans on the road. I'm pretty sure they wanted to give us what "we" wanted, a new SHO and now it's here so love it or hate it. Personally I really don't care if it has a Yamaha Motor or a Manual option, the tradition has been passed onto a new generation and that is what I honestly care about. Long live the SHO and cannot wait till I can go buy one....

Back to your regular scheduled thread.....
 
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You said you didn't want to test drive it. Did you? Nothing is like the old SHO anymore and I wanted a manual shift and went elsewhere. But I did drive one and did like it quite a bit.

One thing I learned is not to give an absolute opinion until you've experienced something firsthand...

Did you have to order your V to get a manual? I've yet to hear of one on a dealer lot with a stick.
 

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Did you have to order your V to get a manual? I've yet to hear of one on a dealer lot with a stick.

I have yet to see an auto V on the lots around here.

Local dealer has 2 Vs and they're both hand shakers.
 

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Did you have to order your V to get a manual? I've yet to hear of one on a dealer lot with a stick.

I have yet to see an auto V on the lots around here.

Local dealer has 2 Vs and they're both hand shakers.

Most of the Vs I've seen on lots were automatics. I got in on the 0% financing and had to go to Texas to find the manual that I wanted. Granted, I was very specific in my list of options, but it was not easy to find a manual. There were only 4 left in the country optioned the way I wanted.

I think most dealers stock up on autos and might get a manual or 2 unless they take orders.
 

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I have yet to see an auto V on the lots around here.

Local dealer has 2 Vs and they're both hand shakers.

Where is here?

Bighimsho: you went from MA to TX? Hope you mapped out a great route for the drive back. Up the Natchez Trace and Blue Ridge Parkway would have been nice.
 

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Where is here?

Bighimsho: you went from MA to TX? Hope you mapped out a great route for the drive back. Up the Natchez Trace and Blue Ridge Parkway would have been nice.

Oh jeez, I wish. I really do. But I got the deal done the day before Thanksgiving and was on a plane the Friday after and high-tailed it back to Boston. Left Friday night from San Antonio at 8PM and was in my hotel in NJ at 12:30AM Sunday. Met up with some Caddy guys that morning and was home Sunday evening and back to work Monday.

I am planning a road trip sometime this spring or early summer, though...
 

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2010 Ford sedan with a SHO emblem.

Didn't even have to drive it. I looked at it in all it's glory and wasn't tempted to drive it. It looked like every other sedan they make now. I've driven my 89 Titanium and my 91+ and know what's it like to drive a special one of a kind car, the original SHO. This 2010 model, in my opinion (and that's all it is) is not a SHO, it's a automatic luxury sedan. Like I wrote, the Lincoln on the same floor could have been it's twin other than the name. I just wasn't even interested. It's a nice car, but I like the new Challenger so much better, and it's a 6 speed.
 
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