Hey guys.You have helped me alot in giving me the info on parts and prices.Thanks alot.I was wanting to know if I can get the shims and valve tools from a Ford dealership?Most everything else I can get at Autozone or NAPA.I would like to get it all local if I could rather than through the net.BIG THANKS to Scott for the work sheet and all the info!!
Where to get valve shims and tools?
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fricker66
Active Member
I'm not sure if the tools are available locally but Ford can order the needed shims. Just be prepared to pay more than what's available through FPN or Shonut online.
Mr Anonymous
Tire Wall
http://www.shonutperformance.com
http://www.fordpartsnetwork.com
http://www.shoshop.com
http://www.cincysho.com
You can get the both the shims and the tools from any of the above (Josh at SHO Nut being my preference). You'll see a discount from Ford's list price on the shims from just about everyone above, and most of them (except FPN) will rent you the shims and/or tools. You could also save some $$$ on the tools by buying them from OTC directly. Try searching the forum for 'OTC 60k'.
If you are set on dealing with a local dealer, you'll probably pay list price for the shims and have to wait for them to special order them. I'm not sure if the tools are available individually through the dealer, I don't know that anyone's ever tried, but expect to pay around $500 for the Rotunda SHO tool kit (includes more than the valve adj. tools) if that's the only way they can get them.
http://www.fordpartsnetwork.com
http://www.shoshop.com
http://www.cincysho.com
You can get the both the shims and the tools from any of the above (Josh at SHO Nut being my preference). You'll see a discount from Ford's list price on the shims from just about everyone above, and most of them (except FPN) will rent you the shims and/or tools. You could also save some $$$ on the tools by buying them from OTC directly. Try searching the forum for 'OTC 60k'.
If you are set on dealing with a local dealer, you'll probably pay list price for the shims and have to wait for them to special order them. I'm not sure if the tools are available individually through the dealer, I don't know that anyone's ever tried, but expect to pay around $500 for the Rotunda SHO tool kit (includes more than the valve adj. tools) if that's the only way they can get them.
Yamaha V6
SHO Enthusiast
Local dealer will not be interested in buying OTC tools, most likely (I tried).
E9DZ-6515-*, where * = the shim thickness in a letter code (-A = 2.000, -B = 2.025, .. -ZA = 3.175, IIRC). List is about $4 a shim. Local Kawasaki shops can get you 29.0mm (NOT 29.5mm) shims - the markings are different (might say 2-00 for 2.000, etc.), and not every size will be available; you'll also pay up to $9 a shim at a bike shop.
Ford's only likely got the -S or -T range through oh, say -FA range still available. These are the most likely to be used.
I agree with the guys - unless you're gearing up to do these on a regular basis, go through Josh at SHO Nut for a rental kit - get the shims and the tools one-stop, for less money.
E9DZ-6515-*, where * = the shim thickness in a letter code (-A = 2.000, -B = 2.025, .. -ZA = 3.175, IIRC). List is about $4 a shim. Local Kawasaki shops can get you 29.0mm (NOT 29.5mm) shims - the markings are different (might say 2-00 for 2.000, etc.), and not every size will be available; you'll also pay up to $9 a shim at a bike shop.
Ford's only likely got the -S or -T range through oh, say -FA range still available. These are the most likely to be used.
I agree with the guys - unless you're gearing up to do these on a regular basis, go through Josh at SHO Nut for a rental kit - get the shims and the tools one-stop, for less money.
SHOtimer
#2910
I bought the tools from OTC for only about 25$ shipped if I remember correctly. I remember it being cheap enough that I just decided to buy them.
Doug
Doug
Contact JOSH at www.shonutperformance.com.
I have been dealing w/ him with my project; and I must say he really cares about his customers.
He has gone way out of his way to be helpful, and his prices are good.
check out his 60K rental options.
ROB
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I have been dealing w/ him with my project; and I must say he really cares about his customers.
He has gone way out of his way to be helpful, and his prices are good.
check out his 60K rental options.
ROB
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shojuan
New Member
You did the smart thing by getting the tools directly from OTC. I bought my tools, back before I knew the forum existed, from SP Motorsports. Although I can give praise to SP Motorsports for great service (but not necessarily great prices hehehe) in this case I have a beef with them. Joe Scott gave me a whole song and dance about how the valve tools were no longer made by OTC...a lie. Maybe OTC wouldn't sell to them. Anyways they sold me valve tool knock offs that SHO Shop had made out of cheap carbon steel. The price of the tools was high. The quality of the tools was low...they wear like crazy when doing a valve gapping. To be fair I haven't seen actual genuine OTC SHO valve tools to compare. But the copies that SHO Shop had made really blow. Sure they got the job done. Maybe they'll be good for another valve gapping. I know for sure they wouldn't hold up to anybody doing valve adjustments on a routine basis. Shame on Joe Scott for lying to me saying the real thing wasn't made anymore and selling me a crap copy at quality tool prices!!!!
Moral: If you want your own valve tools try to buy them from OTC directly before you go anywhere else.
<small>[ August 16, 2003, 10:21 PM: Message edited by: shojuan ]</small>
haydenm315
SHO Member
If you run into problems with shims, go here . The shims are 29mm in diameter and happen to be the same shim used in various Kawasaki/Yamaha/BMW cycles, watercraft, and maybe others. They arrive in 3-5 days I think. $4.95 a shim. I don't know if they offer a discount if you buy large amounts. They were awesome in a pinch when shoshop was really lagging ass with the wait on shims.
I recommend drilling a hole in the end of the valve bucket holding tool and putting a string on the end. You need to do something to keep this thing from getting lost if it happens to pop out while you're not looking. This happened to me while I was not looking and getting the correct shim. I finally found it on the subframe, but it took me a long time to find. Save yourself some stress and secure that thing somehow.
<small>[ August 17, 2003, 01:29 AM: Message edited by: haydenm315 ]</small>
I recommend drilling a hole in the end of the valve bucket holding tool and putting a string on the end. You need to do something to keep this thing from getting lost if it happens to pop out while you're not looking. This happened to me while I was not looking and getting the correct shim. I finally found it on the subframe, but it took me a long time to find. Save yourself some stress and secure that thing somehow.
<small>[ August 17, 2003, 01:29 AM: Message edited by: haydenm315 ]</small>
haydenm315
SHO Member
I second the crappy tools but high prices from SP motorsports or shoshop. THe tools get the job done, but do have wear on them. THe holder will bend if you aren't careful. Corner cutting bastards. Joe talks this line about not daring to send old shims in kits, however the previous users of the kits aren't honest and throw them in to make it look like they didn't use many shims.
SP motorsports and protech aren't too bad. I was dissapointed to discover that I was missing a front strut tower bracket on my first sho. I later found it rattling next to the abs computer, but didn't know what it was at the time. I gave $200 to the only reputable sho shop in MD, and they never did pop off the front strut covers to make sure everything was good under there. I was never given a checklist of what they looked at, just a lot of compliments on my car. I don't like bashing, but I was quite dissapointed by this discovery. I probably won't go back there. I'm confident I can do the majority of labor in my garage. I'd rather blame myself than someone else any day of the week.
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