What the plan is...

[JoeHoe_SHO]

What do you guys think about my plan....

1)New brakes (I would do it my self but I stripped out the screws that go into the cals)

2)New struts (OEM probably)

3)New plugs/wires

4)New waterpump

5)New belts

6)Replace valve gaskets etc...(Pending)

7)Mid West SHO intake

8)CATCO high flow cats (universal) 2 inch??? or 2 1/4?? Which is better???

9)Have mechanic un do bends in Y pipe to reduce restriction

10)Summit mufflers

Somewhere in there I wanna get some Yokohama tires

Good plan?

 

[jasonty]

Have a mechanic undo the bends in the y-pipe? Something like that would cost you a lot of money, since the y-pipe would have to be cut, the downpipes from the headers would have to be re-fab'd, bent, and welded back on. I think you'd be much much better off just getting a new y pipe. If it was cheaper to reduce the restriction in our stock units, we'd all be doing it.

 

[JoeHoe_SHO]

Hmmmm....Good to know, Someone, cant remember who off the top of my head was telling me that having a mechanic un bend the Y-pipe it would be cheaper. I guess I would get a new Y-Pipe then. Not to sound like a ********...but the Y pipe is right before the mufflers right it goes cats->2 straight pipes->Y-Pipe->Mufflers...right??? I feel stupid asking but that is what this forum is for right!

 

[jthomas68]

JoeHoe_SHO:
What do you guys think about my plan....

1)New brakes (I would do it my self but I stripped out the screws that go into the cals)

2)New struts (OEM probably)

3)New plugs/wires

4)New waterpump

5)New belts

6)Replace valve gaskets etc...(Pending)

7)Mid West SHO intake

8)CATCO high flow cats (universal) 2 inch??? or 2 1/4?? Which is better???

9)Have mechanic un do bends in Y pipe to reduce restriction

10)Summit mufflers

Somewhere in there I wanna get some Yokohama tires

Good plan?

1)easy enough to fix
2)OEM is fine
3)Good maintenance
4)Good preventative maintenance
5)Still good maintenance
6)If they`re leaking,it`s importaint to fix
7)Stock air box works well
8)stock cats aren`t a restriction,save your money
9)depending on cost and quality,may or may not be fine.
10)only if you want sound,there is NO performance gain to be had.

Where in Rochester are you?I`m in Greece,and you may want to take a look at my SHO when i put it back on the road in a few weeks.

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

I think you should crawl under your car and take a look for yourself. boink Then it will all make sense... why it's called a y-pipe

The y-pipe in in between the exhaust manifolds and the resonator. The resonator is in between the y-pipe and the muffs...

the head bone connected to the..... neck bone!
The neck bone connected to the..... !!!

 

[JoeHoe_SHO]

The Y-Pipe is the thing that makes it a dual exhaust right??? I feel like a tard over here! I always thought thats what it was, just making sure...

JT:
I would love to check out your SHO. I'm sure my old man would too...He has a 94 ATX...he got me into SHO's. I've had 2 since. Let me do a little fixin' up on my SHO. Maybe you could lend me a hand in that. I'll pay ya! $$$, brew, lunch...anything else you could need. I live in Albion NY...about 20 mins to a half hour away from Greece. I work at Webster Xerox and go by Greece every day. I live in a re-done catholic school house and I have a whole parking lot of space to work on car(s).

 

[shorook90]

the exhaust goes from two exhaust manifolds into 2 pipes-into 2 cats -into a resonator- out to 2 pipes and mufflers. The whole exhaust looks like its is a X. The Y-pipe is the top of the X. From the manifolds to the resonator. and there you go. thumbs_u

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

JoeHoe_SHO:
The Y-Pipe is the thing that makes it a dual exhaust right???

Technically the SHO doesnt have a dual exhaust. A TRUE dual exhaust would have two pipes from all the way back. The SHO goes from 2 exhaust monifolds, into 1 pipe, then to 2 mufflers.

We do have dual mufflers... but...

 

[JoeHoe_SHO]

"I once was lost, but now I'm found, was blind but now I SEE"

lol
I see the light...and it is good..very good Thanks. I think thats what I thought, I will check it out sometime just to be sure.

 

[JoeHoe_SHO]

Is the Y-Pipe the thing that makes it go into 2 exhausts????? Now I'm confused I think....Work and SHO talk...confusing mix...Try doing data entry and SHO talk at the same time...damn

 

[jthomas68]

JoeHoe_SHO:
The Y-Pipe is the thing that makes it a dual exhaust right??? I feel like a tard over here! I always thought thats what it was, just making sure...

JT:
I would love to check out your SHO. I'm sure my old man would too...He has a 94 ATX...he got me into SHO's. I've had 2 since. Let me do a little fixin' up on my SHO. Maybe you could lend me a hand in that. I'll pay ya! $$$, brew, lunch...anything else you could need. I live in Albion NY...about 20 mins to a half hour away from Greece. I work at Webster Xerox and go by Greece every day. I live in a re-done catholic school house and I have a whole parking lot of space to work on car(s).

I know exactly where Albion is,my buddy Tony owns A&M Automotive and Transmission out there.I`m finishing up some new things on my SHO in April,and putting it back on the road.We`ll have to meet up sometime after then.

 

[SHOTerror]

I'm going to be getting the exhaust re-done on my '90 as well.. Why can't we just take that feed from the headers that is 2 pipes and run them straight back into seperate cats, mufflers, then out to the tips? Seems like this would be true dual exhaust and have least restriction?

 

[JoeHoe_SHO]

I KNOW TONNY MANNO!!! MY UNCLE, DAVE BAKER HELPED HIM OPEN UP A&M! Tony is a good guy... not so sure about his mechanics (work wise) but Tony is the man...gives me good deals and what not.

After April, yeah...sounds good, by then I SHOULD have all the wrinkles out of my SHO. I would suggest a little race...but you'd smoke me. Let me know when sometime.

 

[JoeHoe_SHO]

Sho Terror, I'm not the one to be askin about exhasut stuff...actually, you do not want to ask me about much dealing w/SHO's. I cant tell ya much except for that you cant squeeze a fart under the hood unless you take out the battery, intake, cam covers, cams, pullies, tires...blah blah blah...you get it

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Jeremy's point list is right on the money. The only thing I'd add is a K&N panel filter would be a nice addition to the stock intake.

Also, so you maybe have a clearer idea of what exactly a y-pipe looks like, I have stolen the image below from Fred for you to look at to compare the stock y-pipe in the distance to the closer aftermarket y-pipe. See how the pipe goes into the rear bank cat at 90 degrees? The cost of replacement cats and the labor to modify a stock pipe are probably going to come close to the cost of just buying an aftermarket y-pipe. If you're going to half-ass this type of mod, save your money and just leave it alone.

Perhaps you should visit SHOTimes.com notes on the Exhaust System and SHOTimes.com Exhaust Design Notes to get a better idea of what you're talking about. Take care of your maintenance items first, then once you have a better understanding of the various SHO parts and mods you might start considering what mods in what order would be best suited to whatever it is you're hoping to accomplish.

 

[JoeHoe_SHO]

Thanks Chris...Thats what I thought. I'm getting the feeling that the best way to go it to get the SHO SHOP Hi-Flow Y-Pipe w/cats. I have a K&N air filter. That was the first thing I bought for my car. Actually, I had it before I bought the car. I plan on fixin the ol beast up before I supe it up. I dont want to do more than the hi-flow y-pipe though, maybe aftermarket underdrive pullies.

 

[luigisho]

Now you're getting it together. Open up the exhaust a little with the y, freshen everything up, and go from there. Think about what struts you put in there. The Ford brand would cost enough to probably get something better.

 

[JoeHoe_SHO]

I know this is the wrong forum for this kind of thing but...here is the thing

I can get front struts from the local yocal auto shop for about 45 bucks a piece, I'm guessin the rear struts are not much different, I probably need more than just the struts...all that other crap that come with them. At 55 bucks an hour, how much am I lookin at total to get all new struts all the way around. My dad took his 94 ATX to a ford dealer and paid around 1200 bucks. I dont really want to pay that much. Know what I'm sayin?

 

[SHOTerror]

JoeHoe_SHO:
I know this is the wrong forum for this kind of thing but...here is the thing

I can get front struts from the local yocal auto shop for about 45 bucks a piece, I'm guessin the rear struts are not much different, I probably need more than just the struts...all that other crap that come with them. At 55 bucks an hour, how much am I lookin at total to get all new struts all the way around. My dad took his 94 ATX to a ford dealer and paid around 1200 bucks. I dont really want to pay that much. Know what I'm sayin?

It's funny man, your doing the same stuff I will be doing soon. I am putting all my estimates togather and I think i'm going to go with KYB GR-2 struts all around, they are about 40 dollars a peice, much cheaper than stock and are supposed to ride better as well as left for ever. I will also be getting new springs all around as well.

 

[89 black SHO mtx]

"true duels" is "almost" impossible to run on a SHO because of the tunnel. as for the stock cats have an exhaust shop do a back pressure test on them you might be suprised. also about the struts, do yourself a favor and replace the mounts and also the bearing plates up front. you'll thank yourself for it later.