Upgrading Brakes

[goalieman59]

What type of brake upgrades can be done?

 

[wood_e]

search.....

 

[yamahaSHO]

Ask yourself what type of performance and 'look' you want. Are you going to track the car? Are you going to run the car hard in canyons or the like? Do you want them to just look good? Do you want just a little more stopping power for the street? etc.... Then you can do a search and find EXACTLY what you need/want!

 

[LeddZepp8687]

^^^^
Im with him


We need details, and then we can reccomend a good setup!!

 

[SHO Dude]

What year is your car?

 

[LOUDSHO92]

These can be done: Brake Upgrades

 

[goalieman59]

Brake Upgrading

First of all I have a 1995 ATX, I want to run some track and better street stopping power along with a good look.

 

[yamahaSHO]

What kind of track events? Road courses? Drag strip? AutoX? All of the above?

You can follow the link above for a kit for any type of driving. If you're pressed on 4 or 6-*** calipers and Mustang brake kit will bolt on as long as you redrill the rotors to the Taurus bolt pattern. TCE Performance Products carries Wilwood brakes for the SHO.

I've gone through many different brake setups from the '96 upgrade, to the SHO Stopper Jr. (4-piston Wilwood), to the "SHO" PBR calipers on 13" rotors (Mustang Cobra brakes with "SHO" machined in), from 1-piece, to now 2-piece rotors. I personally love the PBR's.

 

[SHO Dude]

We offer The Original '96 Brake Upgrade for $339. It comes with everything you need including grooved rotors and ceramic composite pads. It's an easy 30min bolt on job and fits under stock slicers.

We also offer a 13" Cobra Mustang upgrade (requires 17" wheels) for $600 that includes grooved rotors, PBR calipers and stainless lines.

Hit me back if you're interested.

 

[chknhwk]

We offer The Original '96 Brake Upgrade for $339. It comes with everything you need including grooved rotors and ceramic composite pads. It's an easy 30min bolt on job and fits under stock slicers.

We also offer a 13" Cobra Mustang upgrade (requires 17" wheels) for $600 that includes grooved rotors, PBR calipers and stainless lines.

Hit me back if you're interested.

Can the Cobra calipers be modified to fit under the 16" wheels? I'm not interested in running 13" rotors, just better brake design and a lighter setup.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Click me PLEASE!!!

 

[chknhwk]

NOOO!!!

 

[Shoaz]

There are at least three or four different configurations of basic kits that will allow one to use PBR (Cobra) calipers and 16" rims. Only one of the many such kits, the 13", requires wheels larger than 16".

As Jason suggested, search...

 

[SHO Dude]

Just remember, the larger the rotor, the more negative torque the brake can develop. 75% of the braking is done by the outside 10% of the rotor. The bigger the rotor dia, the more effective the brake is.

 

[Todd TCE]

I'll agree with the part about the larger being more effective, but where did you come up with this 75/10 rule?? What's the 10%; 10% of the diameter, 10% of the swept area, 10% of the effective radius? How did you calculate this value Dude? I'm not saying your wrong, or right, I'm just stumped.

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

I beleive he is refering to leverage.

The further the caliper and pads are fro the hub, the more effective they are (all other variables equal).

 

[SHO Dude]

I'll agree with the part about the larger being more effective, but where did you come up with this 75/10 rule?? What's the 10%; 10% of the diameter, 10% of the swept area, 10% of the effective radius? How did you calculate this value Dude? I'm not saying your wrong, or right, I'm just stumped.

Hey Todd, good to hear from you again.

I really don't remember which text book that came from, but it's one of those Rules of Thumb form a collage automotive engineering class.

If I recall correctly, it refers to the outside 10% of the rotor diameter generates 75% of the braking effort (negative torque) and explains why a larger rotor with the same swept area of a smaller rotor will develop more negative torque, given the same coefficient of friction.

 

[Todd TCE]

I'll try running some of that through a spread sheet and see what shows up. I'm agreeing that the outer radius does offer more torque value but I'm not sure it'll prove to be quite that much, nor if I can calculate it as such or not.

I'll start with the common 13" rotor. Figure on a 1.3" value / 2 for the radius which should mean the functional value of the rotor is the outer .650" of it. That's only a bit more than 5/8" of rotor ring. Thus I'm feeling that 75% might be a bit optimistic. I'll post up some resluts later when it gets hot in the shop.

 

[SeanMc]

I just did the Mach1/Cobra/Bullitt over 11.6" last night. The difference is amazing.

 

[SHO Dude]

Pictures look great, but you did it wrong.