Torque convertor acting up???

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Ian Macoomb

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Reposting from the mailing list in hopes of input from you guys not on the list:

This weekend the car was acting funny. At first I thought the torque convertor was to blame but now I'm not so sure.



When crusing at a steady speed and when encountering a hill (even a slight hill) the car seems to surge as if the torque convertor is locking and unlocking rapidly. I sometimes also get a slight bucking as if the torque convertor is slipping. The problem also occurs when accelerating with a light to medium throttle. It's as if the car doesn't know whether it wants the torque convertor locked or not. If I mash the pedal while it's doing it the problem goes away.



I wouldn't be suprised that the torque convertor is on its way out however there are some other signs that point that there may be another source of the problem. Last night when coming home I thought I'd try throwing the car into neutral when it was doing the bucking thing (is that a smart thing to do at 55 mph??). When I did this the car reved up and bounced off the rev limiter till I thought wholly ***** and I threw it back into drive (it wasn't pretty). Needless to say, I didn't try that again. I think I'll wait till I'm closer to home before I try that one again.



Finally, when I got to home and I was dropping off the girlfriend at her place, I put the car in park and watched the idle go from 800 rpm up to 1200 and cycle back and forth. I shut it off for a couple minutes and restarted it to leave and the idle returned to normal.



I'm thinking the problem could be a couple of things: a torque convertor on the way out combined with a bad coil causing the computer to go haywire coupled with some electrical gremlins. Could also throw in some sensor problems (TPS?).



Do any of these symptoms sound familar?
 

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I'm pretty sure it's the convertor now. It isn't a problem in first or second gear as the convertor doesn't try to lock-up until third.

Does anybody know if I'll hurt the tranny if I disable the locking up part of the convertor? I'm not going to make it to the convention with the torque convertor acting up like this.
 

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My '96 is doing something similar, only around 40 - 55 (MPH) when trying to hold constant speed on fairly flat roads. Mine may be a miss, but it may be the TC. Well I drove 1800 miles in 3 days with it anyway and she made it home. I'm still not overly confident in the ATX however but she did make the trip. I found that at 70 MPH the converter generally stayed locked up for most hills of PA, and did occasionally cycle when the A/C was turing on. I will say that when this bucking is going on there is NO movement on the tach...

That's my story and I'm stuck with it. I plan at this time to bring both G 3's to the convetion (still up in the air somewhat - a lot of work to do), if one of them breaks down at least we have another that can hopefully get us home wink

Scott

Ian Macoomb:
I'm pretty sure it's the convertor now. It isn't a problem in first or second gear as the convertor doesn't try to lock-up until third.

Does anybody know if I'll hurt the tranny if I disable the locking up part of the convertor? I'm not going to make it to the convention with the torque convertor acting up like this.
 

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I have noticed when keeping a constant speed, rpms just under/around 2k, I get the same surging, especially on a hill. I am having Kirk hopefully take mine for e rdie see if he has a clue. i hope it is not the TC as i JUST had a new trans installed cuss
 

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When the TC unlocks it should raise the rpms around 300-400 rpm. If you shift manually and use the OD button you should feel a 1-2 shift, 2-3 unlocked (UL) shift, 3 UL to 3 locked (LO). 3LO to 4UL, 4UL to 4LO. 5 definite rpm changes. Loud mufflers and 3.99 gears will exacerbate the condition.
 

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I finished changing the tranny filter and fluid. It was pretty black but still had some pink in there.

Seems to be running okay after adding 6 quarts and only taking out 4 (but I spilled a bunch too). Maybe I was just low on fluid? I think my leak is worse than previously thought.
 

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