Strut tower brace on ebay

[biker889]

so people are selling those buick or whatever strut tower braces again on ebay, they are at $52 right now, think we should tell the people or start selling them ourselves? lol, na i dont think it is right that these people are getting ripped off, what do you all think? im curious.

 

[Bizzy]

don't email ppl about them. I have 6 of them here that I want to get rid of soon as the one that is there now is over with. I bought them a while back then started to realize that they help but not like a real brace should/would. I need to get rid of mine, and if ppl are willing to pay $52 for a $7 part, then I won't complain. Besides I won't list it just for SHO's but for all GEN 1 & 2 Taurii. let the ppl with the SLO's buy them, I just want to use the cash to get a SHOshop set for front and rear. $52*6= $312 - $35 (i paid for them) = 1 happy SHO

 

[BlackOnBlackATX]

as much as i wouldnt want to be the one getting frauded out of my money i have to agree and say its the consumers responsibility these days to do research. and if they dont want to take it upon themselves to search the threads on the internet about strut bars then let them spend their money

 

[LI_SHO]

BlackOnBlackATX:
as much as i wouldnt want to be the one getting frauded out of my money i have to agree and say its the consumers responsibility these days to do research. and if they dont want to take it upon themselves to search the threads on the internet about strut bars then let them spend their money

AMEN! beer

<small>[ December 16, 2002, 10:47 AM: Message edited by: LI_SHO ]</small>

 

[luigisho]

It's one thing to sell an item representing it as something it's not, and selling a common item that people are willing to bid over the retail price. Believe me, I see it with plug wires and all sorts of other SHO items every day all year long. People pay what they think it's worth.

I think others need to keep their noses out of others peoples business. There may be a law or two dealing with interfering with commerce in this manner. Although I buy a few items and am always browsing for a good SHO deal,I don't sell stuff on there. But if I was, and someone ruined a sale, I'd be ****** and find out who was getting involved.

 

[jthomas68]

This is a pretty **** poor attitude.I remember there was a day when us SHO owners would watch out for each other,not try to make money of of one another.If it`s listed as a GM bar,that`s fine.If it`s listed as a stb for the SHO,that`s just going to cause problems.It`s not designed specifically for the SHO,and it needs to be modified to fit our cars as is.Anyone who has the attitude of let the buyers find out the hard way they`re getting screwed,please do not ask me for any help again,with any issue,here or off line.I`ll let you find out how to fix your cars the hard way,just like they buyers who don`t know what they`re getting because they weren`t knolwdgable enough to ask if the stb they are buying is actually made for the car represented in the ad.

 

[luigisho]

Gimme a break Jeremy. Anyone who asks for help or an opinion about any problem or product will be answered by any of us. If someone puts up a stb with a beginning bid of $5 and then it goes up to $50 through the bidding process it's caveat emptor. I don't personally like to see it go for that but again I'm taking the position that you don't get between a buyer and seller unless you were asked. There could be legal recourse on the seller's end if they chose to pursue it. How much would you spend before you researched what a fair price is for it? I don't know about you, but I check out every SHO related item I consider buying- period.

There are all types of aftermarket items for sale in the SHO section on ebay not specifically designed for that car. There's a difference between someone asking for help or opinions, and putting yourself between 2 parties doing business. That's not an immoral position and, although things make you uncomfortable, it doesn't give liscense to intrude uninvited. I do not believe this to be incompatable with offering assistance to anyone.

<small>[ December 16, 2002, 12:54 PM: Message edited by: luigisho ]</small>

 

[jthomas68]

I never once said to contact the buyer.My concern is that not every SHO enthusiast is a member of any online community.That means,if someone was to see a stb on E Bay for an SHO,and buy it,they are gettit ripped off.The bar does not fit the SHO,it needs to be modified to even bolt up.Because if that,it has no more business being listed at a bar the the SHO as it does a Toyota Supra.If it is listed as a GM bar for use on an SHO,that i understand,but a simple listing of an SHO stb is misleading,and a bold face lie.I would not contact either buyer or seller in any situation,i was merely sadened to see the "if i can make money for their stupidity,good for me" attitude.I feel i can speak with confidence and experience on this subject,as i do have one of the bars,and my company is making tower plates that will actually allow them to encompass all 3 mounting bolts on the tower.When they arrive from the shop,we will be marketing the plates as a suppliment to the GM bar,not and SHO brace.

Basically,my gripe is that i don`t approve of an ad being misleading.We have to remember that not everyone knows what this bar is.If it were listed as the GB brace for use on the SHO,i would have no issues.

<small>[ December 16, 2002, 02:03 PM: Message edited by: jthomas68 ]</small>

 

[luigisho]

Right. And I thought I mentioned something about representing it as something it's not.
Anyway, have you tried the prototype on your car with the GM bar? I'm curious as to why your're not offering a ready made piece with bar included? I was thinking of the pieces Tim D. was (still?) puts together. I wonder if he machines the whole unit himself or just the strut tower connectin pieces too? Doesn't look too difficult if you're really good at that type of stuff.

 

[Bob Gervais]

netviper:
don't email ppl about them. I have 6 of them here that I want to get rid of soon as the one that is there now is over with. I bought them a while back then started to realize that they help but not like a real brace should/would. I need to get rid of mine, and if ppl are willing to pay $52 for a $7 part, then I won't complain. Besides I won't list it just for SHO's but for all GEN 1 & 2 Taurii. let the ppl with the SLO's buy them, I just want to use the cash to get a SHOshop set for front and rear. $52*6= $312 - $35 (i paid for them) = 1 happy SHO

Nice attitude, about the SLO's. If I remember correctly, you were an SLO owner not too long ago. And no, I won't email anybody about it, just an observation. As far as eBay is concerned, IMO it's buyer beware. As far as attempting to gouge anybody I know, yes I would tell them. So we're clear, don't come on TCCA and try to sell these $7 pieces of crap, thinking nobody will be the wiser, because they will.

As far as STB's go, my Gen 3 is already in use on a couple of SLO's, and should be test fit on a V8 soon enough, if this friggin weather will cooperate.

Gen 1 and 2 are made by a few places, right? Any info on these? I'd like to get some for my 89. i was thinking about making those as well as the Gen 3 unit, but if they're already available at a reasonable cost, there would really be no point in it, IMHO.

 

[Bizzy]

Bob I still own my SLO, but I can't even drive it anymore, the SHO is much more me. That isn't to say that it isn't a damn fine car that I have owned 2 of. I had a 94 GL and my 95 SE. both gave me 10's of 1000's of great miles. I wouldn't come over to the TCCA and try and sell these bars, just as I do feel a slight bit of remorse listing them on ebay. But if someone isn't willing to do thier homework and just wants to pay insane amts for the GM bar then let them. I'm leaving one on my 95 SE, cause for occasional use that car sees, it is a good upgrade.

I just want to get rid of these that I bought thinking that they would be a great end STB. As long as I get what I paid for them I could care less how high they go for. But if the "market" dictates the price ppl are willing to pay, than who can argue?

 

[Bob Gervais]

Hmm, I see your point. Guess that's the whole point of eBay, right?

 

[jthomas68]

luigisho:
Right. And I thought I mentioned something about representing it as something it's not.
Anyway, have you tried the prototype on your car with the GM bar? I'm curious as to why your're not offering a ready made piece with bar included? I was thinking of the pieces Tim D. was (still?) puts together. I wonder if he machines the whole unit himself or just the strut tower connectin pieces too? Doesn't look too difficult if you're really good at that type of stuff.

As a matter of fact,we are going to be making an entire unit.The plates will be universal,for the GM bar to bolt onto,and modified for a better brace.You are correct that the plates are very easy to design and machine if you know what you`re doing.

 

[jthomas68]

netviper:
Bob I still own my SLO, but I can't even drive it anymore, the SHO is much more me. That isn't to say that it isn't a damn fine car that I have owned 2 of. I had a 94 GL and my 95 SE. both gave me 10's of 1000's of great miles. I wouldn't come over to the TCCA and try and sell these bars, just as I do feel a slight bit of remorse listing them on ebay. But if someone isn't willing to do thier homework and just wants to pay insane amts for the GM bar then let them. I'm leaving one on my 95 SE, cause for occasional use that car sees, it is a good upgrade.

I just want to get rid of these that I bought thinking that they would be a great end STB. As long as I get what I paid for them I could care less how high they go for. But if the "market" dictates the price ppl are willing to pay, than who can argue?

But,the price people are willing to pay changes if they don`t know what they`re buying.Have you even noticed that the GM bar auctions never have a picture attatched?Do you think that`s a coincedence?

 

[LI_SHO]

jthomas68:

netviper:
Bob I still own my SLO, but I can't even drive it anymore, the SHO is much more me. That isn't to say that it isn't a damn fine car that I have owned 2 of. I had a 94 GL and my 95 SE. both gave me 10's of 1000's of great miles. I wouldn't come over to the TCCA and try and sell these bars, just as I do feel a slight bit of remorse listing them on ebay. But if someone isn't willing to do thier homework and just wants to pay insane amts for the GM bar then let them. I'm leaving one on my 95 SE, cause for occasional use that car sees, it is a good upgrade.

I just want to get rid of these that I bought thinking that they would be a great end STB. As long as I get what I paid for them I could care less how high they go for. But if the "market" dictates the price ppl are willing to pay, than who can argue?

But,the price people are willing to pay changes if they don`t know what they`re buying.Have you even noticed that the GM bar auctions never have a picture attatched?Do you think that`s a coincedence?

mine does

 

[luigisho]

Oh yeah, and the SHO gasket set I was watching on ebay this week that sells for $78 at AutoZone went for $119. The part number was in the photo. I mean don't people look this stuff up?

<small>[ December 16, 2002, 07:28 PM: Message edited by: luigisho ]</small>

 

[biker889]

ok..it didnt want this to be an agreesive topic, just curiousity, but to sum it up, i can see exactally where jthomas68 is coming from. but also, luigisho has a good point, its the peoples fault for not knowing what they are buying. but its not good that the seller is misleading these people...sorry for the argumentative topic.

 

[olympic]

jthomas68:
But,the price people are willing to pay changes if they don`t know what they`re buying.Have you even noticed that the GM bar auctions never have a picture attatched?Do you think that`s a coincedence?

Check out this previous thread on this same subject. http://www.shoforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=21;t=000452

$122.50 with pics!!! eek! I buy/sell stuff on ebay too and some things go for the starting bid, others go through the roof. Sometimes way higher than it can be had elsewhere. Like others have said, you have to research, research, research before placing your bid. Don't let auction fever get the best of you. Most of the time it's as simple as doing a web search or visiting an online parts store like Summit Racing.

 

[luigisho]

I wish I still had the ebay link from the mailing list yesterday. There was a beer can that sold for $19k. Out of sight! I thought it was bs but some people checked and the buyer sent the $$. It was old, and steel, and looked neat, but I wouldn't pay $19 for it- forget $19,000. Ebay just gets weird sometimes.

 

[BlackOnBlackATX]

man, i saw a bible autographed by jesus that sold for 20 bucks the other day, and i once saw a half eaten roast beef sandwhich for 13! some people will buy anything! tool