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. . . Having that badge on there is just handing those kinds of LEOs a free excuse to stop you & have a little "chat".

Just a little perspective from a 17-year certified former LEO.

Yeah, I realize it's a risk. I'm actually more afraid of getting ticketed for not having front license plates—they do enforce that here (I always have front plates on my vehicles). In my matte-black Marauder, I used to get pulled over all the time by LAPD just to ask what kind of plates I had on the car (they're special-recognition press plates). They're often more than friendly, and my NBC badge and CHP press pass always seem to garner some added leeway.
 

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Police interceptor is a model made by ford. In no way can you get in trouble for it. You are not claiming to be a cop. You just own that ford model. Maybe my friend can get in trouble for driving his Saturn. Impersonating a planet
 

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Police interceptor is a model made by ford. In no way can you get in trouble for it. You are not claiming to be a cop. You just own that ford model. Maybe my friend can get in trouble for driving his Saturn. Impersonating a planet

Well..... unfortunately official-type folks that control guns & whether you walk around in public or not would respectfully disagree with that opinion. Here's a few brief examples....

https://www.1015thehawk.com/2022/06...ce-paraphernalia-from-decommissioned-cop-car/ https://nslegislature.ca/legc/bills/63rd_3rd/3rd_read/b001.htm The Nova Scotia Police Identity Management Act of 2021, Chapter 8, Acts of 2021.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ute&URL=0800-0899/0843/Sections/0843.085.html http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes...tute&URL=0300-0399/0319/Sections/0319.14.html Two law cites here, A) Florida Statutes, F.S. 843.085. Specifically check wording in Subsection "2". Also, Florida is so bad now that agencies have to repaint cars before sale to remove any markings or color combinations that might even remotely confuse people, under B) - Florida Statutes, F.S. 319.14 (5).

I was looking for the case from Pennsylvania that I previously mentioned so I could cite it, but I can't find it on a quick search as the Google results are always changing. I don't have a current Westlaw subscription so I can't use that resource either. It's still out there though somewhere.

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/hernando-deputies-arrest-police-impersonater/67-300179306 Here's one from 2014 in Florida.... Based on the news report the Police Interceptor emblem displayed on the vehicle factored in to support this guy's arrest, although not the sole reason. Note this quote in part from the perp.... (NAME) said that he installed all of the police-related equipment on/in his vehicle so that "no one would mess with him."

It's a very dangerous mindset to assume blanket absolutes when you are dealing with a myriad of local, state, and some cases regional/federal laws - all of which can empower enforcement-type people to enter your life via either for a brief friendly conversation, traffic stop/temporary detention, or far worse. Should you be able to display that emblem with immunity from officialdom screwing with you? YES, it's just the placard for a specific model of vehicle made by the Ford Motor Company (which BTW assumes no liability for what you do with their product!). However... in today's reality with all the fake police impersonators wandering about the streets, there's been enough incidents to where a few bad apples have forever tainted things. That unobtrusive Ford Motor Company emblem just provides fresh red meat for someone that's eager to stop & enforce.

There's no uniform standards in passing laws, many times it's a kneejerk reaction by elected officials to a high-profile event, pile-on event(s), or even forceful public opinion (read: mobs of torqued-off citizens!) by average joes and/or the media of current & recent events. Unfortunately a lot of laws do get passed every year that won't withstand a court challenge, but that won't stop Officer Friendly from enforcing his or her interpretation & understanding of them until they're off the books, whatever motivations (and there can be many!) may be. Overzealous perhaps.... but at the end of the day you still have to take the ride if things go south for you. Snap decisions for cops to start the process take seconds, but can have lifelong ramifications. Over a stupid little stick-on emblem.

That old quote from the movie Wargames sorta fits here... "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play".

Eric
 

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Thanks Eric once again for a level headed discussion of said risks. Look bad enough I have had my traffic stops, many justified based on speed. That said I had a lightly tinted non obstructing license plate cover, the predicate for speed citation turned into obstructed license plate. I agree and share your caution with others here it's not worth that decal.

I could only imagine speeding => license plate cover => PI badge => ?

Thanks again for sharing. Many folks feel empowered by knowing their right or understand their rights, even if a judge rules in my favor in the end, all of the rest is not worth it.

My 2 cents.

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You will be fine. As someone who holds local office and i have tons of fraternity friends in high places. You will be fine
The news reports are from idiots trying to “pull someone over”. Plenty of crown vics running around with police interceptor badges. Also the taurus is not the current police car sold by Ford and bought by local governments.

You will be fine, i know the people who “control”, i am one of them.

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You will be fine. As someone who holds local office and i have tons of fraternity friends in high places. You will be fine
The news reports are from idiots trying to “pull someone over”. Plenty of crown vics running around with police interceptor badges. Also the taurus is not the current police car sold by Ford and bought by local governments.

You will be fine, i know the people who “control”, i am one of them.

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You still in "control" of posting a link to the 10 second FWD SHO?
 

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Makes two of us yaycandy. We've never laid eyes on each other but I have over 30 years experience working in government (not all of my time was on the enforcement side). I've drafted proposed state laws (which were subsequently enacted) and provided staff input on numerous other proposed county & state laws and ordinances, handled multi-million dollar grant projects, stood in front of elected boards for both kudos and roasting (not in that order, ha!) and learned a lot of things that I'd be better off not knowing in all probability. Ever visit the Emmitsburg, MD area for example? :) I've had elected officials that have both worked with me and for me, and have good Master friends in at least one of the same social circles you run in (in my geographical branch and one or two others). Also I've run a forum board like this one for another police car brand in excess of 10 years now.

In the US & territories as of 2019 there were 19,502 incorporated entities that had ability to enact local laws (cities, counties, towns, etc....). I'm excluding School Boards & Special Districts of course, that'd inflate the number to an insane amount. That makes a **** of a LOT of permutations possible....

BTW love to buy you a beer sometime & swap stories. You have my utmost respect for your engineering prowess & abilities to separate the wheat from the chaff! And also... nice ride!

Thanks
Eric
 

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Well..... unfortunately official-type folks that control guns & whether you walk around in public or not would respectfully disagree with that opinion. Here's a few brief examples....

https://www.1015thehawk.com/2022/06...ce-paraphernalia-from-decommissioned-cop-car/ https://nslegislature.ca/legc/bills/63rd_3rd/3rd_read/b001.htm The Nova Scotia Police Identity Management Act of 2021, Chapter 8, Acts of 2021.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ute&URL=0800-0899/0843/Sections/0843.085.html http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes...tute&URL=0300-0399/0319/Sections/0319.14.html Two law cites here, A) Florida Statutes, F.S. 843.085. Specifically check wording in Subsection "2". Also, Florida is so bad now that agencies have to repaint cars before sale to remove any markings or color combinations that might even remotely confuse people, under B) - Florida Statutes, F.S. 319.14 (5).

I was looking for the case from Pennsylvania that I previously mentioned so I could cite it, but I can't find it on a quick search as the Google results are always changing. I don't have a current Westlaw subscription so I can't use that resource either. It's still out there though somewhere.

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/hernando-deputies-arrest-police-impersonater/67-300179306 Here's one from 2014 in Florida.... Based on the news report the Police Interceptor emblem displayed on the vehicle factored in to support this guy's arrest, although not the sole reason. Note this quote in part from the perp.... (NAME) said that he installed all of the police-related equipment on/in his vehicle so that "no one would mess with him."

It's a very dangerous mindset to assume blanket absolutes when you are dealing with a myriad of local, state, and some cases regional/federal laws - all of which can empower enforcement-type people to enter your life via either for a brief friendly conversation, traffic stop/temporary detention, or far worse. Should you be able to display that emblem with immunity from officialdom screwing with you? YES, it's just the placard for a specific model of vehicle made by the Ford Motor Company (which BTW assumes no liability for what you do with their product!). However... in today's reality with all the fake police impersonators wandering about the streets, there's been enough incidents to where a few bad apples have forever tainted things. That unobtrusive Ford Motor Company emblem just provides fresh red meat for someone that's eager to stop & enforce.

There's no uniform standards in passing laws, many times it's a kneejerk reaction by elected officials to a high-profile event, pile-on event(s), or even forceful public opinion (read: mobs of torqued-off citizens!) by average joes and/or the media of current & recent events. Unfortunately a lot of laws do get passed every year that won't withstand a court challenge, but that won't stop Officer Friendly from enforcing his or her interpretation & understanding of them until they're off the books, whatever motivations (and there can be many!) may be. Overzealous perhaps.... but at the end of the day you still have to take the ride if things go south for you. Snap decisions for cops to start the process take seconds, but can have lifelong ramifications. Over a stupid little stick-on emblem.

That old quote from the movie Wargames sorta fits here... "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play".

Eric
Your Canadian law says it is illegal for someone to sell it to civilians with that stuff on it and that the person was forced to turn in all the police equipment (like a push bar that drew way more attention). The penalty is 2.5x more for corporations proving that it is mainly targeted at preventing sales to the public.

Your Florida law clearly states that you cannot have that stuff with the INTENT TO MISLEAD. The intent is very hard to prove unless you are doing something like the Hernando case that you cited. In which case I am sure that the lights, siren, badge hanging from the mirror, almost running someone off the road and then trying to pull them over are the reasons why he got in trouble. The news mentioned the "Police Interceptor" badge as part of the wow factor. Much like when they mention race, the type of firearm, etc. as trigger words to create problems.

Simply look around at how many decommissioned Police cars are in use across the US. Then, take it a step further and look at all the Police replicas. If you are obeying the law, you will not get arrested and impounded for a Police Interceptor badge. IF that were to ever happen, any lawyer worth his pay would get you a nice healthy settlement.
 

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My 2013 FPIS has the 3.5 EcoBoost engine and I added the SHO EcoBoost rear emblem and SHO side emblems to replace the generic blacked out side emblems. This person from post # 2 definitely added some emblems too. On the back, I don't think this car would ever have "Taurus", "Police Interceptor" and "SHO EcoBoost" emblems all at the same time. I also have an "EcoBeast" decal to go over the EcoBoost part of the rear SHO EcoBoost emblem.
 

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My 2013 FPIS has the 3.5 EcoBoost engine and I added the SHO EcoBoost rear emblem and SHO side emblems to replace the generic blacked out side emblems. This person from post # 2 definitely added some emblems too. On the back, I don't think this car would ever have "Taurus", "Police Interceptor" and "SHO EcoBoost" emblems all at the same time. I also have an "EcoBeast" decal to go over the EcoBoost part of the rear SHO EcoBoost emblem.
HA I did the exact reverse of you... :p I dont own a FPIS
 

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I apologize it's dirty af, but here's my 3.5 EB FPIS with some added flair.
 

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I wonder the weight differential between say a 2013 Taurus SHO and a 2013 FPIS 3.5 EB? One the one hand, the police version may be heavier when fully loaded with less creature comforts, but mine is pretty basic now with all that stuff removed so maybe it's lighter/ faster than a stock SHO? No tune (yet) but, I've added a couple things that've also helped boost performance. Maybe not though, as there may be additional weight on the FPIS with its added bracing to take more severe rear (and perhaps) frontal impact. Not sure. In any event, I'm loving this car. It's a blast to drive. Gotta love that 'Pursuit Mode' -except when it happens unexpectedly!
 
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My 2017 PI had a skid plate and the 75mph crash subframe under the rear seat (now removed). Probably weighed 60-70lbs between the two. And the PI has no resonator. I believe the SHO does. Should be lighter than a SHO. Then I switched to coilovers (much lighter), catless DPs (much lighter), removed the spare/trunk lining (the spared weighed 72lbs), rear seat, and passenger seat.
 

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Hmm. Mine has a different exhaust than stock with no cats and glass pack mufflers. Seems to flow quite well and it's loud. There are also metal plates inside the back of the front seats to prevent a psycho from stabbing you in the back -but I can't imagine those weigh much. I too am thinking about removing the spare, but it would suck to not have one when you need it. It's alot of dead weight though.
 

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