Removing Power streering

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Bringetto

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I wanted to ask if removing the power steering would hurt the steering rack in any way? like if i capped the lines for the rack itself and got rid of the pump and lines?

any help is appreciated
 

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The easy answer is no, it wont hurt it, but before you even consider such a crazy thing to do, I want you to drive down a desolate road, then turn off the key while the car is in motion and try to steer. I think you will learn very quickly that removing the power steering is not a smart thing to do.
 

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Cars that come without powersteering are okay.

Cars that are supposed to have power steering are supposed to. It requrires A**loads of power to turn the wheel.
 

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is it possible to get a non-power rack for the SHO? Maybe off an early model taurus?
 

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ill second that, is there a steering rack without ps that would blt up to the sho's subframe?
 

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Seriously doubt it in a front wheel drive car.

Whats wrong with power steering? Why do you want to delete it? It only weighs like 8 LBS.


Edit: But I suppose anything is possible. Perhaps you could retrofit an electric power rack...if you are trying to unload the losses from the pump.
 
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Driving any Taurus without P/S is absolutely, positively stupid and unsafe.

Need to swerve to avoid something in the road? Nevermind, you just hit it.

That 90 degree turn into a parking space at the mall? If you don't break the steering wheel, column or the shaft you might just manage to get in with a 17-point turn.

It's a bad idea in so many ways.
 

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i drove a bronco ii with no ps and oversized wheels and tires. It wasnt easy making tight turns, it just took a little longer. I have no intentions of removing the power steering, was just curious if it was possible
 

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i drove a bronco ii with no ps and oversized wheels and tires. It wasnt easy making tight turns, it just took a little longer. I have no intentions of removing the power steering, was just curious if it was possible
Apples and oranges. The Bronco II had a conventional recirculating ball steering system where the Taurus has a rack and pinion system. There are also vast differences in the geometry and weight loading of the two vehicles.

Possible? Sure. Safe? No way.
 

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I drove my SLO GL for an hour after the power steering pump went out (to get home). It was one of the best upper body work outs I've ever got. There was no chance I could have done any evasive driving if my life depended on it.
 

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I agree with all y'all....I remember driving an 88 SLO with a blown power steering system, and it's not something I ever wanna try again, especially with a combat *****'d shoulder. However, what I'm thinking about is a non-power rack. One that was never mean to have power steering. I thought for certain some of the earlier model base Taurus' came without power steering...****, didn't the MT-5 not have power steering?
 

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I think ya'll just need to work out more cause I drove a '91 AWD talon (manual trans too) from MI to Buffalo without P/S with no problems (had a P/S line blow out). Granted it is lighter than the SHO, but it just took a little more work to do a 3 point turn.

I've also heard that trying to steer a car that came with powersteering without fluid in it is harder than driving a car designed without powersteering. I can't confirm this though.
 

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i would say that driving a car designed without powersteering is easier than driving a car whose ps blows out

my ps is coming out. im with typhoon and bringetto, go workout, lawlz
 

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You might want to get started now on designing or finding more robust slider and universal couplings for the base of the Taurus steering shaft. The OEM couplings that are there now are barely up to the task of running the power-assisted rack, and asking them to put up with non-assisted steering loads is inviting premature wear, and possibly unexpected failure.

I want you to drive down a desolate road, then turn off the key while the car is in motion and try to steer. I think you will learn very quickly that removing the power steering is not a smart thing to do.
Not a fair test, here's why:

In order for a power assisted rack to operate without the PS pump running, it has to be able to passsively circulate fluid in both directions from the pressure and return ports. Two things prevent this:
1. The PS pump effectively prevents driving fluid backwards through the pressure line, and into the pump.
2. There is a one-way check valve in the Taurus' steering rack pressure port that prevents fluid flow back to the pump.

In the Mustang community, we convert power steer cars to manual all the time by simply putting a loop of tubing between the pressure and return ports and letting a small amount of PS fluid passively circulate. Some folks actually do it right and replace the 15:1 power rack with a early model 20:1 manual rack. Most often this is done on skinny-tired drag race cars. You will find that the sizable majority of serious road race Mustangs (SCCA A-Sedan and NASA AI/AIX cars) have fully functioning, though often highly modified power steering systems.

I'm not saying don't do this, I honestly don't give a flying crap what most of you do; but be prepared to do some competent re-engineering, be prepared for higher steering efforts, be prepared for parts to break more often, and make sure you pull the check valve out of the pressure port.

Good luck.
 
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incase you missed it, the answer is no, dont do it. the list is longer then you care to read on reasons why its a bad idea. put a underdrive pully on the pump they are super light aluminum and they will lower the trivial HP the pump uses now to about 0.
 

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No, actually the answer is "Yes, it could hurt the steering rack if done improperly". Read gmorrel's post.
 

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See, I think we've all come to realize that disconnecting the power steering on a rack that originally came with power steering is about as good an idea as bitch slapping a grizzly bear's cub. I think the discussion now is whether or not any Taurii came without power steering from the factory, thus the possibilty of allowing a manual steering rack.
 

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