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no, You actually get better flow with the outer airbox removed...Opal Frost ATX:
At first I removed only the horn, then I started looking, and then I took off the entire outter airbox portion. Should I have left this on?
I think thats the advantage of the airbox, now I'm just making an assumtion here. But if you did hit a big enough puddle, wouldn't the depth of the air box hold the water out of the rest of the intake?Zap:
Is there any risk to removing the horn or even the entire outer section? In the freak chance I have to drive through a huge puddle or something, I don't want to risk engine damage!
Are you implying Ram Air? How fast do you have to go to build up a positive pressure in front of the MAF of an engine that is ingesting over 300 SCFM?stevetatro:
Isn't the outer airbox what captures and directs the cool air into the inner airbox?
Seems without it you'd be minus some necessary air.
Yes it does!stevetatro:
I'd leave it in. It doesn't sound THAT good without it!
I second that it does sound good with it out. I removed the whole outer box. I frequently check after it rains to see if any water has gotten into the box. I have never found water in the box. That is what the splash guard is for. I don't think that having the extra box in there would catch any more air than without it. Being that it is in the fender where air really isn't pushed inThere would'nt be very much of a "ram" effect anyways. It might catch a little more, but not enough to make a signifigant difference. The only reason for this mod is to make sound, not performance in any way, negative or positive. Some go farther and enlare the hole in the fender and in the stock air box. I plan on doing this after winter......This sucks, I am removing my car back to stock for winter. frownSHO_Driver:
Yes it does!stevetatro:
I'd leave it in. It doesn't sound THAT good without it!
I removed the air silencer in my 89 about nine years ago. I live in Western Washington and I'd say we get our fair share of rain and puddles here. I have never had any problem because it.Zap:
Is there any risk to removing the horn or even the entire outer section? In the freak chance I have to drive through a huge puddle or something, I don't want to risk engine damage!
I don't at all think there's any additional pressure. I do think it could be the best way or directing the cold air into the box (or open cone for those that have one installed). Correct me if I'm wrong, but only if you have facts!SHOZ123
Are you implying Ram Air? How fast do you have to go to build up a positive pressure in front of the MAF of an engine that is ingesting over 300 SCFM?
They wouldn't see it, and it's not smog equipment anyway. This intake cone's only job is to control sound. It does nothing else in terms of performance, emissions whatever. It is purely sound.yellowSHO:
....To see that it is missing they would have to open your air box in the engine bay or jack the car up and pull the drivers wheel and fender liner out. Even if they did this, it should not matter. I doubt it is considered emissions equipment.
Not so, Yellow. The Gen2 cars have it much easier in terms of removing the cone. Unscrew your amber corner light. Reach in and yank! No jacks, no nothing. Way easier than on a gen 1 car.All the Gen Is and Gen IIs are the same in this regard. Also, for another freebie mod, do a search for 'throttle body coolant bypass'
I don't have any actual aerodynamic facts. But I do know from my past job as an air flow tester on ventilation at workstations that any obstruction will decrease the flow.stevetatro:
I don't at all think there's any additional pressure. I do think it could be the best way or directing the cold air into the box (or open cone for those that have one installed). Correct me if I'm wrong, but only if you have facts!
I know you've tested and experimented with the SHOs a LOT, so I'll take what you say as gospel in this case ;^)
I also believe that you have directed some 4" duct from the front of the car through the fenderwell and into the airbox. Is that still your current setup? If so, you obviously find there's some benefit to not JUST removing the outer airbox, right?
Later.