Recent Cam Weld Photos

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Looks good. I bet the trip back was a lot more enjoyable then the trip there. Eric does a good job and pays attention to detail. Enjoy your new found relieve. :)

From the looks of the picture, you also got to meet Mike Barberi and Larry Eck.
 

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well you'll have all nigh to upload them. You have exceeded the max # of visits allowed today.
I tried that and photoisland timed me out after 30 minutes so I have to do a small number at a time. I have about 40 pictures. So, I decided I will upload them on my friends cable modem next time I go over there! thumb
 

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Looks good. I bet the trip back was a lot more enjoyable then the trip there. Eric does a good job and pays attention to detail. Enjoy your new found relieve. :)

From the looks of the picture, you also got to meet Mike Barberi and Larry Eck.
Yes the drive home was a blast reprogramming the computer (aka beating the **** out of it) and not worrying about the cams. It was great!

Yeah I met Mike, Larry, and Eric for the first time. I had alot of fun. We thought you might SHOw up to, but O well...next time! I joined SHOcago so I'm sure I'll get to meet you sooner or later.
 

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Would like to see the pics but it said something like try again tomorrow exceeded number of visitors allowed.... That really blows, wonder if I could view them after midnight? I will try and see. :( :confused: shrug
 

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I was planning on showing up, but we had a SHOcago staff meet that went on for forever and a day.

I'm sure Eric showed you the SHOfa, the Bird, and the other misc goodies. Neat house he has there and probably a patient wife too. :p
 

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FWIW- The "Lots of Parts" and "Very Clean" shots are BEFORE shots. After a couple of cans of Berryman's, these parts all looked "Out of the Box New". Usually, the inside of the intake is BLACK with PCV deposits. This engine was the cleanest INSIDE I've ever seen. :D

To my knowledge it has only run on MOTORCRAFT oil.
 

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Not to freak everybody out but, at work we have this piece of equipment that has a steel plate that is always coming loose and breaks welds due to a slight vibration. It takes a while but the welds always crack and they have to weld it up again abd then it is good for a while like 6 months or so then the welds crack again. Is it possible that welds could crack on cams also? I know anything is possible. Could it be the type of metal used to weld the equipment at my workplace that cannot withstand a slight vibration over time and that is what causes the weld to break. Has anyone ever heard of a welded cam breaking the weld over time, has anyone ever taken the engine apart to inspect the welds to see how they are holding up after they have had a few miles on them? Just curious, because everyone says this ia a "fix" for the cam defect and I am just concerned that a weld job would last after seeing what happens to the welds on equipment at work.
 

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FWIW- The "Lots of Parts" and "Very Clean" shots are BEFORE shots. After a couple of cans of Berryman's, these parts all looked "Out of the Box New". Usually, the inside of the intake is BLACK with PCV deposits. This engine was the cleanest INSIDE I've ever seen. :D

To my knowledge it has only run on MOTORCRAFT oil.
Yes, I forget to mention that, thank you Eric. Its had Motorcraft (actually the oil in the tanks at work, I assume its Motorcraft as I work for Ford, but I have heard differently) in it since 16k as far as I know, although I did find a Penzoil sticker in the door jamb?! shrug

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Funmart6:
Has anyone ever heard of a welded cam breaking the weld over time
Actually yes, that has happened once before as far as I know. The weld job was horrible and very unprofessional so the cam still failed. SHOshop posted the pictures awhile ago.
 
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Funmart6:
Not to freak everybody out but, at work we have this piece of equipment that has a steel plate that is always coming loose and breaks welds due to a slight vibration. It takes a while but the welds always crack and they have to weld it up again abd then it is good for a while like 6 months or so then the welds crack again. Is it possible that welds could crack on cams also? I know anything is possible. Could it be the type of metal used to weld the equipment at my workplace that cannot withstand a slight vibration over time and that is what causes the weld to break. Has anyone ever heard of a welded cam breaking the weld over time, has anyone ever taken the engine apart to inspect the welds to see how they are holding up after they have had a few miles on them? Just curious, because everyone says this ia a "fix" for the cam defect and I am just concerned that a weld job would last after seeing what happens to the welds on equipment at work.
I would be willing to bet that there is some looseness in that assembly they are welding, or that the incorrect type of welding process or material is being used. Think of it like this, if you bend a paper clip enough times, it will break. The same thing applies to welds. If the components being welded have any kind of looseness before welding, the weld is sure to fail as it is the only thing holding the assembly together.

In the case of the cam sprockets, there is a mechanical fit, or swaging, onto the shaft, providing secure attachment, although it seems not quite stong enough. The welds help to secure the sprockets, and are not taking all of the load, so they should survive just fine. This is assuming the correct process and cleaning were done.

In some cases, such as frames, etc. components are welded without any other secure attachment, but they are not subject to vibrational or rotational loads. These are acceptable practices.

Any type of component that is subject to vibration or other type of dynamic load needs to be located or secured in another way besides the weld, whether is is a rabbeted fit, or in the case of the sprockets, a press or swaged fit.

Hope this clears it up a little!
 

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Yes, the equipment I was refering to is a conveyor belt assembly at work, it has a slight vibration all of the time probably because something is improperly aligned, therefore the welds alway seem to crack after some time. I understand now about the cams, Thanks.
 

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