Rear Cam Seal Part Number Question

[9091SHOs]

I know there are tons of posts on here regarding the cam seals and how to replace them. I wanted to just verify part numbers before I order. On my '91+, the rear cam seal under the cam sensor is leaking. Are the following part numbers still correct and valid? -

Ford - E9DZ-6700-A
OR
National - 1213N

Also in looking at the Rotunda tools - would a person need both the seal expander and the seal install tool to do this job?

Thanks guys

 

[zoomlater]

That is the correct Ford part number. I would use that one if you can find one. The National one has worked for others, but leaked for me. I would put a thin layer of RTV around the seal to prevent leaks. There is a cam seal expander tool on ebay right now that makes the job really easy. The install tool can be a correct size PVC pipe to push the seal in evenly.

 

[9091SHOs]

Thanks Zoom - What is the difference between both Rotunda tools?

 

[Irish Pride]

The seal expander sits on the end of the cam and allows you to slide the seal on to the camshaft without risk of tearing it.

The seal installer is a tool that pushes the seal into place under the cam cap.

You can do the job without the expander but cannot do it without the installer or equivalent tool. As stated, a section of PVC pipe large enough to fit over the camshaft will work just as good.

Might as well do all 3. I've had good luck with the Felpro seals.

 

[9091SHOs]

Thanks guys, always appreciated !!

 

[rubydist]

In my experience, the expander is vital. If you don't have that, the only way I have successfully gotten that seal in place without damage is to remove the top half of the cam bearing so you can wiggle the seal in place by hand, and then clamp the bearing cap in place. The rtv is very important to keep it from leaking on the outside of the seal.

 

[9091SHOs]

Just so I can understand it correctly in my mind...The expander gets the seal onto the end of the camshaft, the installer gets the seal into its proper place?
Do you place the seal into the expander somehow and then onto the camshaft?

Sorry for the questions, first time doing this particular seal

 

[Irish Pride]

The expander is a tapered cone that sits on the end of the camshaft. You slide the seal up the expander until it's safely on the cam. It stretches the outer lip without risk of tearing it.

 

[zoomlater]

The cam seal has a spring inside of it that needs to expand evenly, hence the difficulty without the cam seal tool

 

[FastCAD]

I know there are tons of posts on here regarding the cam seals and how to replace them. I wanted to just verify part numbers before I order. On my '91+, the rear cam seal under the cam sensor is leaking. Are the following part numbers still correct and valid? -

Ford - E9DZ-6700-A
OR
National - 1213N

Also in looking at the Rotunda tools - would a person need both the seal expander and the seal install tool to do this job?

Thanks guys

Ford #E9DZ-6700-A
Fel-Pro #TCS 45870 "Camshaft Front Seal Set" (set of 3) includes cam sensor seal. RockAuto.

 

[Deathacus]

From what I understand, the "Ford" part is obsolete (as not unexpected).
However, it is simply a repackaged NOK BH2737E. I wonder if anybody knows where to find some, I can't find them anywhere online. There doesn't appear to be many NOK distributors in the US. Makes sense given the engine was built in Japan.

 

[zoomlater]

Try checking with Shosource, I passed on a bunch awhile back. I have some but they are part of an upper gasket kit from RCM

 

[Irish Pride]

Try checking with Shosource, I passed on a bunch awhile back. I have some but they are part of an upper gasket kit from RCM

Damn, haven't heard that name in a long time.

-Chad

 

[Deathacus]

SHOsource carries the National seal, but if I could find the original NOK seal, that would be great.

 

[zoomlater]

Damn, haven't heard that name in a long time.

-Chad

I got the kit off a guy up here (that bought them awhile ago) that he thought they were 3.2 kits, but they ended up being 3.0 kits

 

[zoomlater]

SHOsource carries the National seal, but if I could find the original NOK seal, that would be great.

did you ask them if they have the OEM ones for sale, the ones I gave them were sealed in Ford packages

 

[zoomlater]

There is a Ford 3.0 Upper Gasket kit that would have these OEM cam seals in them, go to ebay and search for the topic below

1989-1995 Ford Taurus SHO NOS 3.0L 3.2L V6 ENGINE VALVE GRIND UPPER GASKET SET