prices on 60k replacement items

[AVINO95]

i was kind of amazed when after i researched all of the sho pages for prices on a waterpump, timing belt and crankpositioning sensor that when i went to my local advance auto parts the prices were so low. here they are:
waterpump: $185.69
Crank Positioning Sensor: $57.79
timing belt: 39.09

the lowest prices i could find on the net were:
waterpump: $219.00
Crank Positioning Sensor: $99.00
timing belt: $55.00

that is a pretty large difference in price! i might actually be able to afford these fixes now! is there any difference in the parts i would be getting from Advance than the shoshop or shonut?

 

[DavidT]

Autozone has the Crankshaft Pos. Sensor (Wells SU242) for $42.99.


Timing Belt is $34.73 (Gates T248) and
Water pump (3.0L A1 Cardone 57-1373) $36.95 (both from Rockauto.com)
These are what sdpatt recommends thumbs_u

<small>[ February 02, 2003, 12:40 AM: Message edited by: dkautumna ]</small>

 

[AVINO95]

wait a second?! the waterpump is only 36 bux? i find that hard to believe! upon further inspection of that site, i don't trust em. the one for 36 bucks doesn't even look like the one used on the sho. the crank positioning sensor is a good deal though. does anyone else have insight into this? why are the prices so expensive at sho-shop and shonut?

 

[DavidT]

well, you might be right about the water pump, read my posts about coolant leaks it is remanufactured
but I'll promise you that these items are your best buy for good products. Scott Patterson backs them. Do a search on his posts (sdpatt). This guy knows the SHO, and has very valuable information and advice to help other sho owners with

 

[projectSHO89]

I used the $36 water pump on mine.

The difference (besides being remanufactured) is that the $200 pump is a complete pump housing assembly, including the rear half. There are no wear parts on the rear part of the housing, so there is no benefit in replacing it.

Just make sure you get and replace the O-rings on the back of the pump, and assemble the front pump half to the back with the supplied gasket and with a good quality gasket sealant. That will save you from dk's problem, most likely. While you're at it, put a new lower hose on. NAPA 7311, iirc, for $11.50 will work.

The AZ CPS works fine. Make sure you get the Gates, not the Dayco, Timing belt. The Gates has all the reference marks on it for installation.

There's a reason that SHONut's prices are so high, he sells the Ford Motorcraft parts. While his prices are far less than a dealer's, his cost is still up there with the dealer's cost. As for SHO-Shop, well, their web site doesn't specify if the parts are Motorcrafts, but I assume they are.

Steve

<small>[ February 02, 2003, 08:45 AM: Message edited by: projectSHO89 ]</small>

 

[luigisho]

On the water pump, you need to also get the water pump gasket set -fel pro es70425- just over $5 to seal it to the rear housing. There is a core charge for the pump so add $10 unless you plan on shipping the old part back to Rock Auto to collect.

Like Steve said, get the Gates belt. How about a new front seal too?

 

[sdpatt]

One more time....

Below is an edited reprint of my response to a similar discussion for this topic....

Try this listing of services, parts and recommended replacement intervals. If a part was replaced at the first 60K service and I specify a 120K replacement interval, that means I think it should be good until the 180K service. Search Key: 60K parts and recommended replacement intervals

NOTE: Check for the latest prices as they change frequently. Last updated 1/16/04.

I. Top End Engine Work
1) Valve gap check/adjustment of all 24 shims - 60K
...Requires gapping tools and supply of shims, shims shown below.
...FordPartsOnline.com $3.04 ea.
...FordPartsNetwork.com $3.15 ea.
...SHO NUT Performance $3.55 ea.
2) Spark plugs - 60K
...Motorcraft AGSP32PP (6 ea.), O'Reilly $3.79 ea., FordPartsNetwork.com (FPN) $3.99 ea.
3) Plug wires - 3.0L: 120K, 3.2L: 100K
...3.0L Motorcraft WR-4033, FPN $99.99 (will fit the 3.2L)
4) Valve cover & plug well seals - 120K
...Fel-Pro VS50378R, AutoZone.com $71.99
...Fel-Pro VS50378R, RockAuto.com $81.79
5) Intake manifold gaskets - 120K
...(required only if black finish is chipped)
...Motorcraft E9DZ-9439-A (2 ea.), FordPartsOnline.com (FPO) $11.90 ea., FPN $12.49 ea.
5a) Intake manifold gasket set (includes 2 intake-head gaskets and all fiber gaskets for runners and IAC valve):
...Fel-Pro MS94831, RockAuto.com $33.79
...Fel-Pro MS94831, AutoZone.com $45.99
...Fel-Pro MS94831, O’Reilly $38.99
6) Thermostat - only when not functioning correctly
...Motorcraft RT-1112, FPN $19.99, FPO $17.77
7) Oxygen sensors - 60K
...3.0L Bosch 13942 (2 ea.), AutoZone $38.99 ea.
...3.2L Bosch 13223 or 15716 (2 ea.), AutoZone $49.00 ea.

II. Front End Engine Work
1) Timing belt - 3.0L: 60K, 3.2L: 100K
...3.0L & 3.2L Gates T248, RockAuto.com $37.79
2) Accessory belt(s) - 3.0L: 60K, 3.2L: 100K
...3.0L PS-WP, Gates K040500, RockAuto.com $12.66
...3.0L A/C-Alt, Gates K060445, RockAuto.com $13.75
...3.2L Gates K060854, RockAuto.com $24.79
3) Water Pump - 120K
...(remanufactured-lifetime warranty)
...3.0L A1 Cardone 57-1373, O’Reilly Auto Parts $49.99 + core
...3.0L A1 Cardone 57-1373, RockAuto.com $41.79 + core(warranty?)
...3.0L NAPA WP 571373, NAPA Auto Parts $41.99 + core
...3.2L A1 Cardone 57-1458, O’Reilly Auto Parts $69.99
4) Water pump gasket set - not usually required, but recommended
...Fel-Pro ES70425, RockAuto.com $4.88
...Fel-Pro ES70425, O’Reilly $5.69
5) Lower radiator hose - only if desired, not usually required
...Motorcraft, FPO $13.20
6) Crankshaft position sensor - 3.0L: 60K or 120K, 3.2L: 100K
...Wells SU242, AutoZone/AutoZone.com $34.99 ($55?)
...Borg-Warner CSS54, O’Reilly $55.99
7) Front main crankshaft oil seal - 3.0L: 60K, 3.2L: 100K
...National 710220, RockAuto.com $6.66, O’Reilly $8.49
8) Camshaft oil seals - 120-180K
...Fel-Pro TCS45870 set, RockAuto.com $14.63
...Fel-Pro TCS45870 set, O’Reilly $15.89
...National 1213N (3 req'd), O’Reilly $4.99 ea.
9) Cylinder Identification Sensor - Only when it fails
...Wells F134, AutoZone/AZ.com $32.99
...Motorcraft DU47, O'Reilly $40.99
...Borg-Warner CSS29, O'Reilly $27.99


With the lifetime warranty on parts such as the remanufactured water pump, I let them go until they leak. Otherwise, you would have to buy them each service and basically forfeit the warranty. If the water pump is original and has no warranty I would replace it with a remanufactured unit that does have new seals, bearings and warranty.

I personally wait until the thermostat fails before replacing it since you can reach it just as easily by loosening the intake tube hose clamp at the throttle body and the two air cleaner lid clips and removing the cleaner lid and intake hose. It could last for years and the most common mode of failure is that it doesn't fully close, rather than sticking closed. It just makes the engine slow to warm to the normal range or prevent it. Neither is immediately hazardous to the engine.

The crankshaft position sensor (CPS) has shown the ability to last longer than 60K miles and usually more than 100K miles. Since I do all of my own work, I wait until it fails before I replace it just to save money. At your mileage, I would replace it. It certainly saves the effort later. My OEM CPS unit lasted 180,000 miles.

My OEM CID (cam) sensor was still going strong when I replaced it at 269,000 miles during a camshaft seal replacement. After seeing a new one, I can see why. It is rather robust and there are no moving parts and not much chance for any physical contact with the sensor wheel. It can also be accessed with removing any of the parts necessary for the timing belt change. Only replace it when it fails.

The throttle position sensor is also a long life component and incredibly easy to replace. Only replace it when it fails. Same for the coolant temperature sensor.

<small>[ February 17, 2004, 05:06 PM: Message edited by: sdpatt ]</small>

 

[AVINO95]

Once again, the SHOforum comes through. Thanks for all your help guys! you kick ass!

Dave