Performance Alignment

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Just thought I'd finally share with the group some of the alignment specs I played with this autocross season on my '95 SHO. An alignment is the least expensive but most noticable handling "mod" you can do to your SHO. If done correctly, a good alignment improves not only the performance of the car but also the feel of the car as you drive down the road.

First, set front toe. Front toe-in (as set from the factory) dulls the steering response and slows the transient behavior of the car. It makes the car feel heavy, but it also makes it stable on the freeway. I like zero toe on my SHO, maybe 1/16 or 1/8" of toe out if you're an autocrosser. Zero toe gave me plenty fast steering but the car is easily driveable on the street and brainless on the freeway.

To set the toe, you don't even have to get the front end up. Loosen the jam nuts on the outer tie rod ends and the inner tie rod end boot clamps. The cheap, easy way to set the toe is to get a length of 2x4 that is fairly true. It honestly doesn't have to be perfect. With the car on level ground, and the steering wheel perfectly centered, push the 2x4 up against the front of the tire tread. Make a mark on the 2x4 where the center of your treads hit it. Do the same, with the SAME SIDE OF THE 2x4 at the rear of the front tire treads. Measure the distance between each set of marks and take the difference. This is twice the toe. I think you will find it is usually 1/8" or more from the factory.

To zero out the toe, just turn the now loose tie rod with a channel locks, turning the same amount of turns on each side of the car, until you get the same measurement at the front and rear of the tire treads. Tighten the jam nuts and the inner tie rod end boot clamps.

To set front camber, pop the hood, jack the car up and remove the strut tower covers. Note the three nuts and the strut top plate. This plate is riveted from the factory to the strut tower. You need to break the welds if a shop hasn't already done it. I used a 3/8" drill and a small chisel. Drill a hole through the rivet and chisel under the strut plate. It will pop up at each rivet.

For camber, I like to run the maximum. This isn't much on a SHO anyway, around -2 to -2.5 degrees. -2 degrees has worked very well for me. If you drive hard, -2 degrees will keep the shoulders of your tires in good shape, while drastically increasing cornering force ability.

I won't go into how to measure camber as it is fairly straightforward and you can look for instructions on the net, or by searching the TechSHO archives at Topica.com.

To set the camber, move the strut plate towards (for more negative) or away from the engine on each side. Balance is crucial here. You don't want more camber on one side of the car than the other - it will make the car behave different in transient responses.

Caster is the angle of the strut relative to vertical as you are looking at the face of each wheel. Positive caster is when the top of the strut goes back from the bottom of the strut. The advantage to more positive caster is that it increases the camber gain as the suspension travels through its range. This increases cornering grip when you need it. The disadvantage, as I found, is that it dulls the steering response on the freeway. A car that is twitchy and simultaneously unresponsive is not good. I played with maximum positive caster for autocross, but then would return it to minimum positive for the drive home. I don't have a good way to measure caster, but an alignment shop would.

Unfortunately, unless you have adjustable rear control arms, the rear alignment is not adjustable. On my SHO, I have 1/16" of rear toe in from the factory and 2 degrees of negative camber. If you have the ability to adjust your rear alignment, I would shoot for zero rear toe of 1/16" of toe in, and .5 to .75 degrees negative camber.

I had good results with these settings this autocross season and feel they are good for any autocross or street-driven SHO.

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Cool info man, sounds a lot like what you were talking to me about at the autox a few weeks ago. Hey!...I got a great idea. Why don't you come out to my place, and play with my alignment since I'm too lazy too do it, then I'll let you drive my car all around and autox my neighborhood! Hehe... I know you're so tempted. wink

Do you like my new rims? I didn't have to do much convincing to get Shannon to pose for the pic either.
 

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John V. - had to comment on alignment specs here.

First off, on the front, anything over about
-0.75 to -1.0 negative camber will wear the inside edges of the tires rather rapidly on the street.

In addition, it will increase stopping distances in a straight line, as when the nose dives the front suspension collapses and you get even more negative camber, meaning that you are trying to brake primarily using the inside edges of the tires.

Also, drag race times, especially 60 foot times, will increase as the tires will not be as flat as possible to the road when the suspension extends on launch (a little static negative camber is ideal to get the tires flat on the road at max extension).

But for autocrossing, the - 2.0 to -2.5 front camber settings are ideal . . . .

One more thought - I would get the Ford adjusters for the arms and really set camber and toe, looking for -0.25 to not more than -0.5 rear camber, and 1/16 inch toe in, maybe a hair more. This is entirely legal as it is described in the Ford service manual.

Still pondering getting a small group buy together on adjustable front swaybars . . .

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Hey John.

I suppose it depends on how you drive on the street :) . Yes, the extra negative camber up front will cause inner shoulder wear if you drive long distances. As for stopping distances, I'll take the improved transient response and lateral grip and give up some stopping distance. Hmm... makes me think about finding an open parking lot and doing some braking tests...

By "rear toe adjusters" do you mean the offset adjustable bushings from TRW? If so, IMHO, they are junk. PITA to install, PITA to adjust, and they restrict the movement of the arms because they aren't sleeved. Once tightened down, they really bind up the suspension. Still looking for a camber/toe solution here.

Drag racing? 60' times? Come on, man - you should know me better than that :) .

Anyway, I think I'm done tweaking the car for the season, maybe for good. Know anyone in the market for a '95 with 143k miles but all new suspension/steering and a strong motor?

John V

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Great topic John. I run very similar specs for auto-x and track events:

1/8" Toe-out in front
1/16" Toe-in in rear
2.5deg neg camber front
2deg neg camber rear

I set mine before each event and back to zero on Sunday night. I've got it down to 2hrs.

As for straight-line braking, with 700lb/in front springs I see almost no nose dive. The springs never compress enough to dramatically change camber. Even with stock springs the SHOs suspension geometry doesn't allow as much camber change as a double A-arm type.
 

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I've been driving around for almost 2yrs(15,000+miles) with varying camber of -2.5 to -1.5 with no noticible inner tire wear on my 235mm tires.

BTW what alignment problems could cause the steering wheel to be a bit cocked but still drive straight? I have went 3times already to Town Fair tire and they have yet to center my steering wheel correctly.
 

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No comment on the wear, but if you do the toe before the camber you'll be negating your toe as the camber gains (neg) will pull the toe back in. Castor, Camber, Toe. In that order. Just look at the arcs you'll see. If you are running any real lowering springs on the car you'll need to learn a lot about Bump Steer too. The front end is all screwed up when you drop it and look for 'performance alignment'....

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RI-SHO:
I've been driving around for almost 2yrs(15,000+miles) with varying camber of -2.5 to -1.5 with no noticible inner tire wear on my 235mm tires.

BTW what alignment problems could cause the steering wheel to be a bit cocked but still drive straight? I have went 3times already to Town Fair tire and they have yet to center my steering wheel correctly.
Negative one degree on all four wil definitely cause greater wear on the inside compared to the outside. Some tires are more prone to wear with non-zero camber, but your tires must be very special to not do this with even greater negative camber than mine.

Your toe-in is not set properly if your steering wheel is not straight up in dead ahead driving. Get your car aligned. You may want to check that excessive front camber and inner tire wear too.
 

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Negative one degree on all four wil definitely cause greater wear on the inside compared to the outside. Some tires are more prone to wear with non-zero camber, but your tires must be very special to not do this with even greater negative camber than mine.

Your toe-in is not set properly if your steering wheel is not straight up in dead ahead driving. Get your car aligned. You may want to check that excessive front camber and inner tire wear too.
I'm just going by what I saw 3mths ago when I rotated the two front tires to the rear. Visibly the whole front set tires itself were more worn than the rear because they hadnt been rotated since the wheels were bought/installed in late 2000. But the inner tread of all four tires was just as equal as the outer thread maybe if I went out and measured tread depth they would be off but visibly there equal. And the car has been aligned 3x in the past 2wks, i'm going back tommorrow to see if the 4th time is a charm, i'll be happy now if the steering wheel can at least stay straight any other probelms can be fixed later.
 

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the cheapest mod for rear camber adjustment is to get 2 rear control arms and install them in the frontward arms place. Most places charge 10/LCA and all you need to do is have the proportioning valve piece welded onto the new LCA.
 

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but if you do the toe before the camber you'll be negating your toe as the camber gains (neg) will pull the toe back in. Castor [sic], Camber, Toe. In that order. Just look at the arcs you'll see. If you are running any real lowering springs on the car you'll need to learn a lot about Bump Steer too. The front end is all screwed up when you drop it and look for 'performance alignment'....
No bump-steer problems here. The tie rods are still not horizontal to the ground with my Eibach-lowered car. Granted, the drop is not very large - an Intrax/Coilover equipped car may have issues, but an Eibach equipped one will not.

I aligned the car to toe, then camber, then caster. Toe remained exactly the same as before the camber/caster measurement.

Negative one degree on all four wil definitely cause greater wear on the inside compared to the outside. Some tires are more prone to wear with non-zero camber, but your tires must be very special to not do this with even greater negative camber than mine.
Over the course of 40k miles my BFG KDWS tires didn't have a problem with the rear's -2.5 degrees of camber (again, lacking adjustable control arms there's not much I can do). The inner shoulder did wear out faster than the rest of the tread, but not by much.

No problems with the fronts at -1 degree all around, the tires wore perfectly even across the tread. For the street -2 degree is probably excessive, but -1 is livable.

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Long distance driving and 1-2degrees of negative camber will **** the inside edges of your tires. The wear is not caused by the camber alone, but the heat generated by the camber. As we all know, heat is no friend to tires. That why I have to replace tires every year, 2 trips of 10-12 hrs of constant driving really eat my tires up. I'm only running 1 deg negative camber in the front and about the same in the back (lowering springs)
 

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Hm, like Scott said, it may have something to do with the tires. I haven't had any problems at all with -1 degree. My BFGs took it just great in the front. In the back, probably because there's so much less weight, even the -2.5 was, like I said, not a problem. At the time I was making regular trips to Milwaukee, which is about 500 miles from here.

Though, thinking about it, I am lucky in that my factory setup is neutral with regard to toe in the back. If you had large amounts of toe-in from the factory in addition to the negative camber - that could really promote tire wear. What is your rear toe, Terry?

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John, That's kind of personal, isn't it. :D I'll have to check my latest and greatest numbers. Seems like I did have a little toe back there.

Edit: Since I have switched from the Yokohama A520's to the Dunlops SP Sport 8000's, tire wear is significantly better. The Yokohama tread pattern was not conducive to heat dissipation.

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Originally posted by AutoXSHO:
I aligned the car to toe, then camber, then caster. Toe remained exactly the same as before the camber/caster measurement.
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John, I can't see how this is possible. I have done this dozens of times and the toe always changes when I change the camber. Where the tierod attaches to the strut it is a fixed point. No matter what the ride height of the car, if you move the top of the strut to adjust camber, the strut has to rotate slightly and the toe has to change. Perhaps your measurement method doesn't allow you to see it. I use a very accurate toe gauge and even then I only trust it to within 1/16th inch.
 

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Actually, I think what it was is that I wasn't able to really get any kind of camber change out of the car. It was already at the "hooks" on the strut tops. All I did was remove the hooks and push. I never did a before/after camber measurement so I may have gained very little.

I used one of my "free front alignment checks" that Goodyear gave me when I installed the SO-3s there, and their numbers were identical to my low-tech (but careful) backyard alignment.

John V
 

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John,

If you have Eibachs on the car and the tie rods are level as you indiacte you have bump steer issues to look at. In fact it may be helping you in some way, but it's still not right.

First, if you change the camber to any significant extent the knuckle is pulled in at the top, when this happens the car WILL toe in. That's why you do toe last. You cannot change the arc of the steering arm and how it moves. Secondly when the car is lowered the tie rod is level at ride height. Now when you to into that turn showing the butt end of you car that compressed left front wheel is going into compression (rather hard too) when this happens the tie rod raises and the arc becomes shorter- thus it pulls in the back of the knuckle. Toe out.

How can this be helping? At the extreme levels here it' not. But when slowing for a corner entry and begining a turn in if the toe goes out a bit you'll get a faster turn in.

At one time years ago I was making up a conversion to correct this. I just never finished it. If you know Gary, then you've seen or know of his work on raising the rack in the car to correct for this. We talked about this years ago and he finally did it! You'd do well to look into it.
 

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If you have Eibachs on the car and the tie rods are level as you indiacte you have bump steer issues to look at. In fact it may be helping you in some way, but it's still not right.
Actually, I said they still weren't level. Looking under the car, the tie rods go from the knuckle up to the rack at a slight angle. I have no way of measuring the angle accurately but according to my bubble level they're not level.

I've read about some people shimming up the rack to maintain the factory bump-steer when the car is lowered. When I replaced the rack I just didn't see it as necessary and didn't want to go out and find some fender washers to do it :) .

Thanks for the tips, I will add them to my "learning about alignments" notes and use them for future reference.

John V
 
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