Wsho
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I would like to take a Gen 4 SHO combined it with a P100 Tesla. Then it would be called SHO-Elect...
The only time that will happen if I win the lottery.
The only time that will happen if I win the lottery.
Non SHO projects you always wanted to try
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Options coming for 22 cars. Might be an interesting option after a few years of wrecking yard inventory
https://www.thedrive.com/news/37374...od-v8-coming-to-2022-ford-mustang-f150-report
https://www.thedrive.com/news/37374...od-v8-coming-to-2022-ford-mustang-f150-report
7.3 liter that doesn't even make it to 500 hp? For 9 grand?
Color me unimpressed.
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That article is misleading as ****. "Original block and heads" means just the castings. The heads have been heavily worked, rotating assembly built up, aftermarket pistons, custom ground roller cam, new intake, and on and on and on. You're essentially looking at a mild pro stock motor that needs constant service and little to no street car practicality.
What's the price tag for all of the above including labor? $5000? $10,000? For current results and future projections that are no better than your run of the mill FI junkyard LS? From a motor over twice the size but less torque than a stock ecoboost? Color me unimpressed as well.
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Of all people, I figured you would see the potential here....
7.3l in the same footprint as a 351cleveland. Also the insanely flat torque. And..... You can just add a supercharger and a tune to hit ludicrous power.
But let's just gloss over all that. Dat ting cost de dollas. I'd radda spend 10k to get 600hp on my ecoboost unreliably. (I have no idea actual costs or reliability, just trying to get someone to research anything)
Also over priced, lol.
383 crate from Chevy, 5k, 500 hp. Out the box. Supercharge it, and wham, you're looking at 800 hp.
Yes, I believe that 7.3 has potential. But for the price...
Chevy > Ford
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I agree with this...
I just think 9,000 is a LOT of money for an engine you then have to "build" to get serious power out of. ****, it would be cheaper to start with a dart special high performance block, and strait up build a race motor, good to 1,000hp +.
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For me its just about shaking things up and going back to NA....at least in the Notch.
I currently have a 331 Dart block fully built with a Vortech V3 Si slightly tweaked supercharger. Its currently putting down around 600-650
Have looked at the LS option more than once, just can't do that to the ole blue girl.
Biggest issue for me is I'm NOT going to put a cowl hood on the car, LOVE the notches clean lines.
From everything I have heard that might be impossible with a 7.3
I currently have a 331 Dart block fully built with a Vortech V3 Si slightly tweaked supercharger. Its currently putting down around 600-650
Have looked at the LS option more than once, just can't do that to the ole blue girl.
Biggest issue for me is I'm NOT going to put a cowl hood on the car, LOVE the notches clean lines.
From everything I have heard that might be impossible with a 7.3
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I know....
Who knows...I might just end up doing a Yote conversion one day I just don't want to lose my stock dash.
Just sits Waaaay to high in the bay for what I want out of the car.
Who knows...I might just end up doing a Yote conversion one day I just don't want to lose my stock dash.
Just sits Waaaay to high in the bay for what I want out of the car.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...vnv-gJuMC2ksF2q3wHX0ScRegUKTiZWIaAmtaEALw_wcB
From blueprint engines, very high quality. Could probably find cheaper, and HP is simply a matter of which cam they went with. This was just the first one I found. Could probably bare long blocks for 2,500-3,000. Then select your own cam, intake, etc. Add another 5,000 for a good supercharger kit, you're all in for between 8 and 11 grand, depending what you go with. Super charger kit at 5,000 would come with intake, carb, everything you need. Be looking at MINIMUM 600 hp, if you run a very mild cam, low boost, 87 octane build. More aggressive cam and higher boost at 93 octane, 700+ hp all day.
That "flat" torque curve starts at 4500 RPM, whereas the stock motor has already peaked before that point and probably can't spin past 6000 RPM. All I'm saying is that the full blown race engine in that article is nothing unique or special, bears no resemblance to the original motor, and it's not even streetable power. Unless you like cruising at 5000 rpm and stopping every hour to readjust your valve lash.
Or for <$500 you can pick up a salvage 5.3L, just gap the rings, then add boost and pick whatever horsepower you want while maintaining full drivability.
Now if this 7.3L was 32V with TiVCT, I'd probably have a slightly different opinion. But as a pushrod crate engine, it costs more than a crate LS3 yet doesn't even compete in terms of performance as far as I can tell. It would probably make a decent boat motor though.
Surprisingly, LS motors are goi
The real gem in this is, Ford is going back to overhead valve design. Simple. Cheap. Easy to fix. Small. They just won't produce as much hp per liter, or as much hp per unit of gas burned.
Gotta wait and see what ford does with it. Its clearly set up for towing, not going fast. Its a truck motor.
The real gem in this is, Ford is going back to overhead valve design. Simple. Cheap. Easy to fix. Small. They just won't produce as much hp per liter, or as much hp per unit of gas burned.
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Most performance shops are estimated to produce 900 to 1000hp naturally aspirated. 1600 to 2000hp with supercharger.
Which again fits almost anywhere a coyote fits. Also keep in mind this thing was still making power past 7500rpm.
But anyways, just gloss on over while I contemplate a raptor godzilla combo... This motor has massive potential and shows Ford is spending R&D dollars on all sides of engine tech which I think is awesome.
Not to mention the aftermarket will follow and make this a true monster.... And the "competition" will play catch up as usual.
Which again fits almost anywhere a coyote fits. Also keep in mind this thing was still making power past 7500rpm.
But anyways, just gloss on over while I contemplate a raptor godzilla combo... This motor has massive potential and shows Ford is spending R&D dollars on all sides of engine tech which I think is awesome.
Not to mention the aftermarket will follow and make this a true monster.... And the "competition" will play catch up as usual.
What I see in this motor, is a gasoline burning, turbo diesel fighter.
Writing is on the wall for diesel. Its going away. Its dirty, inneficient, and expensive. VW had to cheat to have "clean" diesel.
So ford is developing the future, here. For trucks...not cars.
Writing is on the wall for diesel. Its going away. Its dirty, inneficient, and expensive. VW had to cheat to have "clean" diesel.
So ford is developing the future, here. For trucks...not cars.
