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Dennis Ball

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Hi, Ive had a 92 taurus sho for 5 years now. Love the car but it just blew a head gasket. Im thinking of rebuilding the motor. It has 175k on it. Problem is i cant find rebuild parts. Where would i find them? Thanks
 

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Pretty sure. it has been eating a little water for a while then it overheated. Now its dumping water out the exhaust. Thanks for the help.
 

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The only reason I asked that is because when overheating, the heads can warp, in which case a head gasket would be a wasted $200. Get the gaskets, but measure the head deck to ensure it is within tolerance.

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Yeah theres no way i take the heads off and dont take them to the machine shop for surfacing and valve job at least. I just cant believe the prices at that forum. ****. Id have 600 in gaskets. Thats crazy. There has to be someplace cheaper.
 

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Well, rebuild gaskets are going to be expensive. Are you planning on stripping the whole thing down including the intake and lower seals? What is the scope of your rebuild?
 

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Well i was trying to get idea of cost of complete rebuild. Im just going tohave to go looking for best prices. Crazy prices though
 

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Remember that main bearings are obsolete. Guys have been looking for years, most of the time people just do the rebuild with the origional or used ones.
 

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I'd suggest actually looking at any parts website, as they can answer those questions. You've checked Advance, O'Reilly's, Napa, Rockauto.com and SHO Source, right?

http://www.shosource.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=61_43_48

A complete rebuild is going to be expensive. Do some searching. I rebuilt my engine over the course of a few years and it probably cost me to the tune of $4000 just for the engine. I'm a good $12,000 I the car now. If you want you can check out the build sheet I have from over ten years ago, and I've spent over double that now.

http://www.meumonus.com/html/cars_sho_3.html
 

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You are imagining that a rebuild on a SHO engine is the same as a Small Block Chev. With the chev, you automatically rebore the block, buy new pistons and rings and gaskets, index the crank, and cut it .010 or .020 and get sized bearings. You get new lifters and a cam, buy a new oil pump. And on and on.

In the case of the SHO, there may be exceptions, but usually you will not need to rebore the block, buy new pistons or even rings. Unless the crank is scored, you will not need to grind it and get oversized bearings (although new rod bearings are often, but not always, needed).
You will be using your existing oil pump as there are no new ones, and the low pressure design means they seldom wear or fail.
You may not have to touch the bottom end at all, unless you feel you have a stuck ring, but removing the rings, cleaning the carbon from behind them, and re-installing the same rings is the gold standard if you are so inclined. Often it is not even necessary to hone the block as the original hash marks are still visible, partially due to the low tension design of the rings.
You will not need a new cam and you may not even have to shim the bucket type lifters.

The people who do all the same stuff to a SHO engine that is done to the SBChev are people who want more displacement, and are race inspired to turbocharge or supercharge.

These engines were built from high quality parts and assembled in the equivalent of a clean room by people in white lab coats; as apposed to the opposite case.

Find out what is really wrong with your engine and fix what is wrong. Head gaskets and upper valve cover gaskets are expensive, but if that is all you really need, it is not so expensive.
 

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Hey now id never imagine rebuilding a chevy, that is a nightmare. You call the scrap yard on chevys. anyways i just cant imagine an engine with 175k not needing rings at least. I also have any extra motor my buddy gave me it is high mileage as well nut might be helpful.
 

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If I were you id replace anything that absolutley needed replaced, and all of the regular maintenance stuff. I would 100% replace the rod bearings though. Make sure that your 60k is up to ***** and be good with it
 

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Ive done alot of stuff to the engine already externally. Motor mounts cam sensor crank sensor timing belt cam seal valve cover gaskets, accel coill, map sensor, belts, rebuilt ecm, hoses, air meter, the list goes on. And oh yeah all new ac system. Thats why i want to fix it.
 

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Thank you guys for all your help and advice. You told me some very helpful information to help me make up my mind. I just stopped at a junkyard that i knew to have a 5 speed sho. The engine has 92k on it and they want 350 for it. I think ill go that route. I will tear it down and freshen up that one. Id rather put my energy and money into that engine. Thanks again dennis
 

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Keep an eye on that Accel Coil.
A lot of people have had issues with them, the original Ford set-up is actually the best.

I would fix the engine in your car, once you determine what is wrong. That $350.00 goes a long way in fixing things if there are no catastrophic issues.
That is unless you can hear the other engine run, and it sounds great; and in that case you simply swap it in, as it is.
 

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If you go to the yard get me the rod shifter assembly !!!! Pm me please!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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