New 91 - trouble getting her fired up

[fredhurderjr]

I just picked up a new mocha 91, and she's having problems getting fired. Supposedly, it idles (but we couldn't get it to), but when you give her gas, she dies. It's getting fuel to schrader, checked that tonight. Any ideas?

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White 95 SHO MTX
"Jezebel"

Spends more time in the shop than in the driveway
Teases me with occasional great runs
3.2L SHO Shop Long Block
9psi Vortech S-Trim Supercharger (12psi on the way)
Eibachs, Tokicos, 96 Brakes, SFCs, STBs
PP Y-Pipe, Custom Stainless Cat-back, Bullets
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[RStalveyARFF]

My man, My man, THIS IS THE CAR I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT SATURDAY!!!! And people don't listen to me

. Anyways, from the sounds of it, it could be ignition related, not having the juice to fire the plugs after you goose it. Could also be poor timing, could be the tensioner let go and is letting the timing belt grab sometimes... It has a new computer so that takes the engine control out of the picture. CPS is done, but nowhere do I see the timing belt done... Good luck with it!

 

[SHOTIME]

Timing belt was done with the CPS and water pump.

It could be timing, Something we will look at. But I doupt it because the car went from driving - to not driving.


I do want to welcome fred into the wonderful world of duel SHO ownership.

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"Bottles are for babies, Real men get blown"

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[Jay97SHO]

WHAT?! You mean I don't have the only Mocha SHO in my area anymore? hehe Where'd you get it,Fred?

Jason

 

[jthomas68]

I`m guessing it doesn`t have a CEL?It sounds like the MAF(will idel but die with throttle)but that throws a code.If you`re thinking timing,check the crank pulley for a worn keyway too.Good luck Fred!BTW,why are these SHO`s so cheap in RI?

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Jeremy Thomas
Modified 91+
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[fredhurderjr]

$800, Framingham MA. Found it on an eBay auction. I'm hoping it's simple, as I need a driver, not a parts car. Talked with the owner last night, and we both agreed - no such thing as a $100 fix on a SHO...

 

[TwiceSHOwn]

I was wondering what happended to that car last night...i was looking at it too.

We all know how rare the mocha SHOs are...

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93 Silver ATX 57K
LPM
80MM MAF
Y Pipe
Eibach + Tokikos
Front and Rear STBs
Cold air snorkel
TCE SHO stopper brakes
Due for its 60K sigh...

 

[Jay97SHO]

Originally posted by fredhurderjr:
$800, Framingham MA. Found it on an eBay auction. I'm hoping it's simple, as I need a driver, not a parts car. Talked with the owner last night, and we both agreed - no such thing as a $100 fix on a SHO...

You suck. Thats the one you showed me. Well,if you can't get it running,I'll buy some parts of off you

Jason

j/k,btw

 

[DfwSho]

Walk to the front of the car and open the hood. Throw vast amounts of money into the engine bay. Problems no more!

Seems to work with all the SHO's that I've encountered with problems.

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Laurence

94 mtx, 17x7 SVT Thunderbird, 225/50/17 Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4's, Eibachs/Tokicos, '96 brake upgrade, Perf. Plus y-pipe, UDP's, dynomax, K&N, PIAA 1500XT, Gen3 badge, TX plate "MTX SHO", Alpine CD, "Yamaha" badges
Gtech Pro 0-60mph 6.36, 1/4-mile [email protected]
98 Suzuki GSXR600

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[Jeremy Hohn]

Laurence!! LMAO!!!!!!!! SO FRIGGIN TRUE!!!!!!!!

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Jeremy

1993 atx 122k miles
-PIAA headlamp bulbs (thanks Fratperformance)
-fish tanks installed
-fog lamp mod w/ blazer fog lamps
-6" 5% tint border on windshield
-black body filled lettering
-wclewis "powered by yamaha" badges
-Sho Shop Cold Air Induction Kit
-Lund blackouts front and back
-cincysho colgan half bra with "SHO" lettering
-KVR chrome cadmium plated rotors with carbon fiber pads
-Sho Shop cat back system with magnaflow chrome tips
-Performance Plus y-pipe
-TX personalized plates "SHO FUN"
-Shoshop underdrive pulleys
-Shoshop 80mm MAF
-60k completed by Sdpatt
-Redline atx tranny fluid and water wetter
-Ted Breaux LPM
-D4U1 computer upgrade
-Rebuilt 94/95 AXOD tranny with TRANS-GO shift kit

 

[noSHO]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[SHOTIME]

Trouble getting her fired up

Dinner, Dancing, Lots of booze.. We will get her fired up fred

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[Huntervf]

Perhaps the throttle position sensor? Or maybe the idle air control? I know on my first 60k I forgot to plug the IAC back in and the car wouldn't idle at all.

I'm assuming that it doesn't have an EGR being a non-Californina 3.0, yes?

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Chris Smith
SVT/SHO Society
Taurus SHO Representative
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89 SHO MTX Light Titanium 122k, Mi. License 1ST SHO, Konig Reign 16 x 7.5 rims, Kuhmo 225/50VR 16's, fender airbox removed, 91+ badges, CincySHO police grill, Covercraft hood protector, silver underhood trim, Pilot driving lamps, Sony Xplod deck, Performance Plus reinforced front mount, Performance Plus y-pipe, Dynomax Magnum bullet race mufflers w/3.5 stainless tips, Eibach springs, KYB struts, MOOG control arms, Royal Purple synthetic lubricants, custom "long throw" shifter, fresh paint, Jolly Roger insignias, trophy winning and NOW in storage for the winter!
95 SHO MTX Silver Frost 92k SOLD 4.14.01 but not forgotton!
96 Contour SE ATX V6 Midnight Red(wife's car) 91k, custom grill & badging, otherwise stock & under warranty
93 Dodge Spirit 2.5 I4 ATX flat white 4 banger winter beater, 116k & struggling upwards

 

[Tommy the Greek]

Fuel pump? You may hear it but line may be clogged.

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'95 SHO ATX, 55W foglights, coneless, fishtank mod, white/mocha cloth interior, 45K, Mobil 1 10W-30, build date 12/13/94.
Below is a pic of her @ 28K miles (Nov. 6, 2000)off interstate 87, overlooking Lake George, NY.

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[fredhurderjr]

Plugs were SUBMERGED in oil, all but 1 (back center). Vacuumed out first (Scott).

Cyl. 1, 2, 5, 6 were Motorcraft AGSP32PP's. Cyl 3 was an autolite , cyl. 4 was a Champion. Pulled my first cam cover too.(front). It's all fear factor.

Idled for a second. On re-fire, had it floored, wants to go but dies. Eric thinks its timing. Swapped the TPS, no go. We're in the process of checking the timing belt, etc. (battery pulled, upper cover off). Timing belt has some play. We're going to do the CKP since we're there anyway, even though it was done 20k ago.

I have a "bad" cleanable IAC from my 95. I'll give that a go after cleaning it up.

I spent the day doing a leisurely swap, and it was VERY pleasureable. None of the typical "gotta get it running" stress. I forgot how much fun it could be.

 

[fredhurderjr]

Eric tried the manual firing of the crank sensor tonight - no spark. We're going to wait & replace the sensor early next week. Moving down the line...