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The motor has nothing to do with whether their tunes for the 10-12's are ok or not, neither does anything else you brought up. What issues were there with the 10-12 tunes? I paid extra close attention as I ran their tune on my 11 up until march of last year when I sold it with 170K miles on it. 70K of those miles were with the LMS tune.

Every issue I recall seeing was with the V11 tune for the 13+ models.

The issue with the 10-12 tunes is that they're pathetically weak. But their lack of tuning knowledge and arrogance to opt not to work with DW with their injectors....messing with his car for weeks.

What you're trying to say is their email tune for 10-12 works. For the sake of your point yes...but so does stock.
 

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What you're trying to say is their email tune for 10-12 works. For the sake of your point yes...but so does stock.

Exactly, and that is what I said. Their tunes for 10-12 are "OK". Not great, not the best, not the fastest. OK.

I would not recommend them, but if someone already had that tune on their 10-12 I wouldn't say that they need to take it off immediately or anything like that.
 

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Exactly, and that is what I said. Their tunes for 10-12 are "OK". Not great, not the best, not the fastest. OK.

I would not recommend them, but if someone already had that tune on their 10-12 I wouldn't say that they need to take it off immediately or anything like that.

I don't think anyone is saying they would tell someone to take it off immediately, rather just to be weary. In general yes the 2013+ was a huge problem, overall 10-12 seemed ok. As far as overall driveability compared to 13+ and I wouldnt say 10-12 are issue free...as I had issues related to performance rather than driveability.

Sour subject for sure.
 

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Exactly, and that is what I said. Their tunes for 10-12 are "OK". Not great, not the best, not the fastest. OK.

I would not recommend them, but if someone already had that tune on their 10-12 I wouldn't say that they need to take it off immediately or anything like that.

I would tell them to take it off their car. There are better tuners and more options. We have seen from other tuners that more safe power can be had. Plus you aren't locked into a garbage Gen 1 MyCal programmer.
 
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