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I just read this entire thread. Brake brackets expensive. It's a Taurus, stop trying to stop.... Jordan is King, Andrew is the Prince, and I'm the fastest. Thank you, have a great day.

PS. Yes, I'm the SHO that gave Jeremy from Fasterprom's LS N2O Miata all he wanted.
 
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Jesus christ. That thread.

Currently on my 3-rd set of rotors on 30k miles, and about 5-th brake fluid change. I overheated my rotors and boil brake fluid often. Oem brakes doesn't hold it at all. Powerstop is a crap and dangerous for my driving style. It can stop you 1-2 times from 130, not more. That's the reason I run stoptech exclusively. I still faid them, but my brake fluid starting to boil first. Friends with 600-1400hp cars also didn't use Powerstop or R1, guess why.
It's probably good for drag guys or daily use tho, but i had Powerstop rotor exploded in 7 pieces previously on my fusion.

Oem size rotors have lack of surface, 6 piston calipers is good, but doesn't make any sense with stock rotors because of heat issues after repeatable hard braking from descent speed. like Matt Robinson says once -sho brakes needs more surface and he was absolutely right. My friends evo x has BBK it's like 16+ inches rotors and car about 1000 lb lighter, that's what I'd like to see on my sho.

If you can adopt ap racing caIipers and essex rotors I will buy brackets for it. But still have no glue about still you using to make brackets? Such a big secret? Why not billet aluminum?

Please, don't pair wilwood 6 pistons and powercrap rotors, it's so wrong. Please go to any road course track and ask serious drivers who run those. Than ask guys who race on streets, and I don't mean drag/roll racers, than ask drift guys. You will understand.

Need to test something? Send it to Minnesota i can do all kind of tests 4 you if you make proper set finally.

And I agree with Jordan and other guys, lack of description and testing results doesn't help you to sell anything man. Spend more time, let guys help you, you don't have to develop everything alone, and don't try to earn all money from first try. And yep, noone believe to guys who doesn't use their own products :) please, install it and tailgate gtr or 911 or rs5 for 10 miles on curvy roads, you will understand how good is your kit. If you will be able to trailbrake after 30 min of hard running with those cars it's good. You should be real enthusiast and a good driver to develop brakes. Money comes later.

Sorry 4 my broken English.
 
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Jesus christ. That thread.

Currently on my 3-rd set of rotors on 30k miles, and about 5-th brake fluid change. I overheated my rotors and boil brake fluid often. Oem brakes doesn't hold it at all. Powerstop is a crap and dangerous for my driving style. It can stop you 1-2 times from 130, not more. That's the reason I run stoptech exclusively. I still faid them, but my brake fluid starting to boil first. Friends with 600-1400hp cars also didn't use Powerstop or R1, guess why.
It's probably good for drag guys or daily use tho, but i had Powerstop rotor exploded in 7 pieces previously on my fusion.

Oem size rotors have lack of surface, 6 piston calipers is good, but doesn't make any sense with stock rotors because of heat issues after repeatable hard braking from descent speed. like Matt Robinson says once -sho brakes needs more surface and he was absolutely right. My friends evo x has BBK it's like 16+ inches rotors and car about 1000 lb lighter, that's what I'd like to see on my sho.

If you can adopt ap racing caIipers and essex rotors I will buy brackets for it. But still have no glue about still you using to make brackets? Such a big secret? Why not billet aluminum?

Please, don't pair wilwood 6 pistons and powercrap rotors, it's so wrong. Please go to any road course track and ask serious drivers who run those. Than ask guys who race on streets, and I don't mean drag/roll racers, than ask drift guys. You will understand.

Need to test something? Send it to Minnesota i can do all kind of tests 4 you if you make proper set finally.

And I agree with Jordan and other guys, lack of description and testing results doesn't help you to sell anything man. Spend more time, let guys help you, you don't have to develop everything alone, and don't try to earn all money from first try. And yep, noone believe to guys who doesn't use their own products :) please, install it and tailgate gtr or 911 or rs5 for 10 miles on curvy roads, you will understand how good is your kit. If you will be able to trailbrake after 30 min of hard running with those cars it's good. You should be real enthusiast and a good driver to develop brakes. Money comes later.

Sorry 4 my broken English.


This platform isn't a race platform. 99.9% of the guys aren't blowing up rotors much less tracking/auto crossing these cars to the point of what you are. Sounds like you need to upgrade vehicles honestly.

Are Powerstop Rotors or R1 concepts good for the everyday and occasional high speed slow downs? For the price point.... yes 100%. I have 15k rough miles on my PS drilled and slotted rotors including having complete brake fade numerous times. The pads were junk, but the rotors are still straight, with no hot spots, and there are no stress cracks (yet).

Want to race, buy a road car. Want to stop better than stock? Upgrade your brakes, esp with these cars reaching 500 awhp. There are numerous solutions in this thread alone for upgrades. Depends on how much you want to spend.

I do find it funny no one complains about the TCE kit and they do NOT offer a larger than stock diameter brake disc. Just saying.

Edit: I stand corrected. TCE does offer 15 inch rotors.
 
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This platform isn't a race platform. 99.9% of the guys aren't blowing up rotors much less tracking/auto crossing these cars to the point of what you are. Sounds like you need to upgrade vehicles honestly.

Are Powerstop Rotors or R1 concepts good for the everyday and occasional high speed slow downs? For the price point.... yes 100%. I have 15k rough miles on my PS drilled and slotted rotors including having complete brake fade numerous times. The pads were junk, but the rotors are still straight, with no hot spots, and there are no stress cracks (yet).

Want to race, buy a road car. Want to stop better than stock? Upgrade your brakes, esp with these cars reaching 500 awhp. There are numerous solutions in this thread alone for upgrades. Depends on how much you want to spend.

I do find it funny no one complains about the TCE kit and they do NOT offer a larger than stock diameter brake disc. Just saying.


14'' to 15'' isn't exactly going to be night and day difference. You're talking an inch of added space for cooling/braking, with the rotors spinning hundred of times a min, 1 inch will not stop the rotor from heat soaking. While that does help, its not like you're jumping from a 12'' rotor to a 15'' one which would make much more of a difference in brake cooling/surface area. The problem is less the rotor surface area and more a problem of these cars weigh over 2 tons, these things are HEAVY. Doing numerous stops from 100+ mph back to back was never what the people that built the car had in mind. You would probably be better off making ducts from the marker light holes to feed air to the rotors to keep them cool vs adding an inch of surface area, just a thought.
 

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14'' to 15'' isn't exactly going to be night and day difference. You're talking an inch of added space for cooling/braking, with the rotors spinning hundred of times a min, 1 inch will not stop the rotor from heat soaking. While that does help, its not like you're jumping from a 12'' rotor to a 15'' one which would make much more of a difference in brake cooling/surface area. The problem is less the rotor surface area and more a problem of these cars weigh over 2 tons, these things are HEAVY. Doing numerous stops from 100+ mph back to back was never what the people that built the car had in mind. You would probably be better off making ducts from the marker light holes to feed air to the rotors to keep them cool vs adding an inch of surface area, just a thought.

Ha! I was actually thinking about the incorporating air ducts from the marker light holes. I have already ditched my covers as well.
 

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Ha! I was actually thinking about the incorporating air ducts from the marker light holes. I have already ditched my covers as well.

I've looked into this a couple times and to be honest it would cost about $200 in parts (roughly), a dremel and a couple hours of your time. The plumbing would not be that difficult with or without the front mount IC(pipe routing), the only real issue is what material you would want to use for the ducting, whether it be, carbon fiber (diy sleeves), alum, flex hose or plastic and that's not even a real "issue" as it is preference.
 
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I just read this entire thread. Brake brackets expensive. It's a Taurus, stop trying to stop.... Jordan is King, Andrew is the Prince, and I'm the fastest. Thank you, have a great day.

PS. Yes, I'm the SHO that gave Jeremy from Fasterprom's LS N2O Miata all he wanted.
Was thinking about this today and had to go back to correct this statement now. Andrew is king, Jordan is prince and @ClearwaterSHO the fastest. Tim where you go? One comment and gone like the wind
 

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Was thinking about this today and had to go back to correct this statement now. Andrew is king, Jordan is prince and @ClearwaterSHO the fastest. Tim where you go? One comment and gone like the wind
Hmmmm.....

Although the correction is warranted, I can't help but think that my 10 years worth of ongoing contributions to the platform, as well as having held the previous records (for both) power, and speed (& for several years at that) for the GEN4/5 MY's, just makes me minced meat I guess.

Forgotten peon. Relegated to the lowest rungs of the SHO totem pole.

Whining? Meh, perhaps. However.....

Where do I fit into this ranking I wonder?

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Hmmmm.....

Although the correction is warranted, I can't help but think that my 10 years worth of ongoing contributions to the platform, as well as having held the previous records (for both) power, and speed (& for several years at that) for the GEN4/5 MY's, just makes me minced meat I guess.

Forgotten peon. Relegated to the lowest rungs of the SHO totem pole.

Whining? Meh, perhaps. However.....

Where do I fit into this ranking I wonder?

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You'd have to ask Tim I didn't make the rules.

Pretty pretty!
 

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Hmmmm.....

Although the correction is warranted, I can't help but think that my 10 years worth of ongoing contributions to the platform, as well as having held the previous records (for both) power, and speed (& for several years at that) for the GEN4/5 MY's, just makes me minced meat I guess.

Forgotten peon. Relegated to the lowest rungs of the SHO totem pole.

Whining? Meh, perhaps. However.....

Where do I fit into this ranking I wonder?

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Emperor king Prince Lord I think is the order in Medieval times. A bishop or Pope is pretty powerful too. But Family pecking order since we came after you would make you the GodFather

lol I have no idea. Clearwater’s list is incomplete
 

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Hmmmm.....

Although the correction is warranted, I can't help but think that my 10 years worth of ongoing contributions to the platform, as well as having held the previous records (for both) power, and speed (& for several years at that) for the GEN4/5 MY's, just makes me minced meat I guess.

Forgotten peon. Relegated to the lowest rungs of the SHO totem pole.

Whining? Meh, perhaps. However.....

Where do I fit into this ranking I wonder?

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The one that got away.... >.>
 

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Hmmmm.....

Although the correction is warranted, I can't help but think that my 10 years worth of ongoing contributions to the platform, as well as having held the previous records (for both) power, and speed (& for several years at that) for the GEN4/5 MY's, just makes me minced meat I guess.

Forgotten peon. Relegated to the lowest rungs of the SHO totem pole.

Whining? Meh, perhaps. However.....

Where do I fit into this ranking I wonder?

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

OG SHO SITH LORD....
 
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