Injector Dynamics ID1000's - Tested and confirmed.

[yamahaSHO]

Since having completely maxed out my current injectors, I have been talking with Tony at T1, as well as doing my own research and it looks like we might be able to fit Injector Dynamics fuel injectors without modification (hoping like ****). Here in the next week or so, I will be placing an order for a set of ID1000's (~95 lb/hr) and see if they'll fit into the SHO setup.

The information I currently have for fitting ID1000's (ID2000's aren't the same):

Stock rails - ID1000-60-11
Bored rails - ID1000-60-14

Since my rails are already bored, I will be going with the ID1000-60-14. At minimum, I already know they'll fit into the rails. The question is really how they'll sit in the head. I'll first try fitting with the supplied O-ring, and if that doesn't sit right, the stock O-ring. I do not know the diameter of the portion below the bottom O-ring, so that could likely be an issue.

As far as PnP... The ID1000 uses an EV6 connector where our V6 Yamaha's use an EV1. There are quite a few options for adapters.

Comparison:

Adapters:






The injectors:

ID1000-60-11

ID1000-60-14

Injector Offset/Latency and Scalar/Flow values (I've read they provide Ford HS/LS/BP data as well)

I have tuned with these injectors, as well as ID2000's on 2.5L Subaru motors and I have been able to get even the ID2000's (2,200 cc = 210 lb/hr) to idle like stock! I suspect these will be just as easy to tune on the SHO, but I will keep this thread updated as to the status. These are pretty much the best injectors you can buy, but they're not as cheap as the Accel's, coming in at $720 + adapters. I am aware that these injectors will not be needed by the majority here, but anyone wanting BIG power, these are the injectors to get... If they fit.

Once I have these in, it will be hard not to try some E85. I will also have a 320lph pump hardwired to the battery with a relay. For the sake of my transmission, I probably shouldn't...

 

[Phoenix]

Similar to Siemens Deka?

Thats what I bought (80lbs) , after Toolman's review on them. And they are going in the shogun.

 

[yamahaSHO]

I don't think there is an injector that compares to the Injector Dynamics injectors at the moment. Not to say the Siemens are not good, they just will not be nearly as good as and ID injector.

I personally haven't found an injector easier to tune with consistantly good results... And I've tuned more than a few different types of injectors.

 

[Toolman]

As inexpensive as the SD are, I can only assume that the IDs have some advantages.

Will be awaiting your results Jason.

 

[Michelle]

So, uh, you have some old injectors?

 

[yamahaSHO]

Already spoken for.

 

[Michelle]

Dang vultures!

 

[Ocnaj]

Can't wait to see the results.

 

[Art5]

I deal with a company around here that can modify you old injectors and make them flow more. They charge me anywhere from 100 to 200 bucks for full service. And they test them before and after.

 

[yamahaSHO]

And they do not compare! PERIOD.

UGR uses ID's for a reason.


As an update, I just made a base map for the injectors as I should be ordering within the next few days. I'll see what fitment issues I run into. Tim will be helping me with another portion of the project once I get them fitted and tuned.

 

[somedude_001]

I am interested on the fitmant as well I am looking at ID2000 for the camaro

 

[yamahaSHO]

That's a big injector (2,200cc) and you'll need several fuel pumps to truly support it. You'll also find out of there is a minimum IPW on the ECU's.

What kind of power are you going for? You might be better off with ID1000's and some additional pumps with higher pressure.

 

[Ocnaj]

What kind of power are you going for? You might be better off with ID1000's and some additional pumps with higher pressure.

My thoughts exactly. My friend had ID1000's on his Civic drag car and he raised the fuel pressure to make them 1600's.

 

[NEp8ntballer]

I can bring those bored rails I picked up off you back with me at the end of the month so you can test fitment without having to take your car apart. let me know

 

[yamahaSHO]

My thoughts exactly. My friend had ID1000's on his Civic drag car and he raised the fuel pressure to make them 1600's.

107 PSI base pressure won't even achieve that.

I can bring those bored rails I picked up off you back with me at the end of the month so you can test fitment without having to take your car apart. let me know

I know they'll fit in the rails already, but thanks.

 

[SHOspazz92]

I deal with a company around here that can modify you old injectors and make them flow more. They charge me anywhere from 100 to 200 bucks for full service. And they test them before and after.

That's what SHOshop did to make their "47lb injectors". They are absolute garbage.

-Sam

 

[yamahaSHO]

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/1929/tuners-test-your-injectors.aspx

 

[trainguy1989]

Yea, I have the 47lb ones and cannot get them to work right. Thought about trying the 48lb ones. Hope nothing in the motor got melted by them. Are the 48lb injectors pretty good?

 

[somedude_001]

That's a big injector (2,200cc) and you'll need several fuel pumps to truly support it. You'll also find out of there is a minimum IPW on the ECU's.

What kind of power are you going for? You might be better off with ID1000's and some additional pumps with higher pressure.

I will be at the upper limit of the 1000's so rather than fuss with the very slim possibility of running out I will just go big and dip my pressure down a bit to do the best I can to get it to idle smooth.

 

[yamahaSHO]

I'd MUCH rather raise the pressure on ID1000's over lowering the pressure on a big injector. Atomization will be very poor. You're going to have a hard time getting those to idle right, if at all. You'll run out of scaler far before 200 lb/hr and will have to trick the ecu somewhere.

I have higher base pressure on my ID1000's for my STi and they work great. Running the upper limit on E85 with these injectors will make loads of power. We regularly make over 400 awtq on a WRX with an STi turbo running the injectors to 79-80% IDC.