I GIVE UP..HELP?(longread)

[xpnsiv93]

OK, so put on a PRO-M 80milla MAF, 69TB w/new TPS...cleaned up IAB and well thats it..
SO the issue is a constant engine cutting out under load and a slipping 3rd gear..all drivetrain is new, and so is the breathing, no vacuum leaks that I can find and the only codes i've gotten that are worth anything is the 157(which i researched to be caused by PRO-M) and a 219...well i cleaned that lil thing and it ran a lil better, i gave her **** after she drove for twenty minutes and the damn thing died on me, and then takes forever to start up, and then stinks like she's running rich..so i give up..what could be causing these issues that i havent fixed ALREADY..long read im sorry..

 

[somedude_001]

no vacuum leaks that I can find and the only codes i've gotten that are worth anything

always list all codes and their meaning

code 219: "description of what the code is"

SO the issue is a constant engine cutting out under load and a slipping 3rd gear

need more information, is it a misfire or does you engine "cutout" like it is turnned off and then come back. I could point you in a few directions but would request more information fist.

the slitting in 3rd gear I can't help you with, in your sig it says 89K junkyard trans? thast not new.

always state the year and trans when asking for help. and FYI that was a very short post

 

[xpnsiv93]

the engine is a misfire feel...giving it gas, throws ya forward like it just cut out then resumes...
I've got a trans. out of an 89 that had less than 100K on it, and a new clutchmasters stage I w/TOB and new clutch fork bushings< didn't start slipping until new clutch was installed?
code 219 is SPOUT circuit failure, follow code 213 diagnosis..213 is ignition SPOUT or SAW circuit open or shorted..i cleaned the SPOUT that was it..dont know much in that code dept.
code 157 MAF signal is/was grounded
is that enough? PS> i thought it was long

 

[SHOtimer]

I think the 219 code calls for the replacement of either the CPS or the CID sensor's. Those will cause symptoms similar to what you are experiencing. Acually I think the CPS is 211 (code that is). I would put on a new CID, those can cause rough running and excessive crank times when the are going bad.

As for the slippage I don't know.

Doug

 

[oh_SHO]

I would agree that you may need to replace the CID. Mine went bad and the car would randomly buck like crazy then go away. The SPOUT is the little connector with a jumper in it. If the jumper comes out it retards the timing and performance will suffer but shouldn't cause any mis-fires.

 

[luigisho]

Just for sh*ts and giggles put the old MAF back on, clear the codes, and see what happens. Make sure the tps was installed correctly and the voltage is correct there.

 

[Cobraii976]

that and make sure the spout connector is plugged in and the wires are seated firmly. Shoracer14 was having a similar problem. and Jim found the spout disconnected.

 

[xpnsiv93]

well i cleaned the SPOUT and all wires are good, it got a lil wet from a heater hose explosion, but all dried and good...as for the stock MAF, well it does the same thing, ive done the Pro-M MAF, a ford MAF and the stock, it does the same thing regardless of MAF, and yes i cleared codes after every switch, im gonna look into replacing that CID and see if that helps. THanx to everyone for responding/helping, i greatly appreciate it.
-nick-

 

[xpnsiv93]

OK, well everyone, i replaced the CID aka>camshaft sensor< and it ran like a champ..for a day, then it resumed its normal bucking feel under load today, after only 75 miles of a fresh CID...so im not sure what it is, it's still throwing the code for a open SPOUT circuit, so im not sure WTH could be causing it?...also it has a miss at idle, so im thinking that maybe my timing jumped, and since i dont have a timing light, is there any symptoms that it jumped timing other than having a timing light put on it?
thanx
-nick-

 

[luigisho]

Maybe it jumped but how would that get fixed for a short time with sensor replacement and then resume? My best guess is maybe the pcm is crappy. Is another SHO owner nearby who can swap a good one in to check it out? All the MTX pcm's (non CA emissions) are interchangeable.

Most of the recurring SPOUT code problems I have seen are usually due to a wiring short or faulty PCM.

 

[oh_SHO]

Was the cam seal behind the CID leaking badly? i.e. bad enough to cause the sensor to go bad?

 

[xpnsiv93]

there was no oil presence behind the CID, so i/one would assume that the seal is doing it's job correctly...??? The old CID had no visible signs of oil either, so therefore i would say the seal is doing it's job...would the PCM be the thing up under the dash or somewhere else, im gonna put the new DIS module on and see if it helps..im runnin out of options..HELLZBELLZ..
-nick-

 

[luigisho]

The pcm is the 'computer'. It is located behind the glovebox and the wiring harness attaches from the other side of the firewall. You will see a rectangular or oblong plug in the engine compartment against the firewall on the passenger side. To remove the pcm there is a small plastic bracket to remove behind the glovebox and the wiring harness has a bolt that runs through to a threaded hole in the pcm case. It's very easy to remove. Are any of the bolts or screws missing on the intake? Specifically the one that acts as a ground for the DIS module?

 

[snoman]

you know what you should check are the plugs into the DIS. One of mine is kind of broken so it gets loose after a while and the engine buck and cuts out. I have a temp. fix in there now until I can replace it with a more intact plug. Just an idea that it could be something as simple as a plug and not expensive sensors.

 

[rbrthrly90]

what is a spout????????????/