I am turbo illiterate... PLEASE HELP!

[SHOracer14]

I know much of this may have been covered before but, I did a search and all I am finding is more questions. First off, does anyone know of any good websites or books with good information about turbos in general? I know many suggest a t3/t04 for use on the SHO and I know those numbers mean compressor and housing sizes but as far as what the numbers mean I am clueless. I've been trying to search the internet for hours and haven't found any good hard info. Basically, the reason I ask is I just got it in me to get some more power out of my recently acquired 93'. I have had one of the first runs of the Bittersweet SHO turbo piping kit that I picked up for next to nothing and I also have a DSM sidemount that I got for free from a friend into those cars. I am going for a low boost setup (9PSI or less). I think I can get away with stock injectors, stock long block etc. I do have a Tweecer for tuning purposes and know I will need a larger MAF, need to relocate the MAF (before the turbo) and construct an intake for the turbo. As far as installing the hardware and fabricating pieces I have no trouble. Where I have trouble is knowing fundimentals of turbocharged engines and how everything works completely. I only know the basics for turbocharged motors but as far as what else I will need besides the norm (turbo, plumbing, BOV,wastegate) I am utterly and completely clueless. Please help me. I am really looking to keep this low boost (as I look at the turbo piping it doesn't seem like it will really flow great for anything higher anyways but it will serve me for what I need), lower budget, and I have many friends into DSM's and SRT's as well as a huge DSM specialty shop locally that can get anything turbo related and at awsome prices. Please lead me in the right direction. THANKS IN ADVANCE!

 

[AREA 91]

If you have blown 4 diff's so far, you need a Quaife WAY before a turbo.

 

[sVtVenom97]

What he said!

 

[masho95]

You might want to start off reading Maximum Boost by Corky Bell.

http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?btob=Y&endeca=1&isbn=0837601606

 

[SHOracer14]

If you have blown 4 diff's so far, you need a Quaife WAY before a turbo.

Well that's all fine and good except looking to not spend 1200.... I have spares so if I blow one I blow one... this first setup is going to be a practice run to see how it all works and comes together... then next time serious power will be attained.
[SARCASM=SHOracer14]Thanks for the suggestion though I never thought of that! [/SARCASM]

 

[SHOMurph]

you missed spelled turbo....

its s-u-p-e-r-c-h-a-r-ger

 

[LOUDSHO92]

You will need to upgrade the injectors. I know the SHO injectors max out over 300hp and wehn tyler did the M90 swap he maxed them out easy.

 

[SHOracer14]

you missed spelled turbo....

its s-u-p-e-r-c-h-a-r-ger

But I already have a car with a supercharger and I've already experimented with nitrous so it's time to try something new.

 

[Off Road SHO]

If you don't like hearing about a 1200 dollar Quaiffe, you're definitely not ready to start taking notes on turbocharging a SHO.

I say just buy ANY turbo, working or not, and bolt/baling wire it in. You can then say you have a turbo'd SHO.

Maximum Boost by Corky Bell is a good beginners introduction to forced induction, but it's a little long in the tooth. Turbo technology has come a long way in the past 5 years.

Tom

 

[SHOracer14]

If you don't like hearing about a 1200 dollar Quaiffe, you're definitely not ready to start taking notes on turbocharging a SHO.

I say just buy ANY turbo, working or not, and bolt/baling wire it in. You can then say you have a turbo'd SHO.

Maximum Boost by Corky Bell is a good beginners introduction to forced induction, but it's a little long in the tooth. Turbo technology has come a long way in the past 5 years.

Tom

I know that I SHOULD have a quaife to make sure the tranny holds together.... I am just trying to put together a little experiment to see if I can do it. Again, I want to see if I can do it because if I can get it to run pretty good then I will go to the extreme and spend lotsa cash on a car that is worth spending the cash on. I'm not talking a complicated setup I am just looking for some guidlines. I know I've needed a quaife since I blew diff nuimber 2 so that's been covered so I don't have to hear about that anymore. I guess I'll be happy with some basic guidlines... lots of my parts will be free anyways or next to nothing as previously stated I have lots of friends with lots of turbo junk. I'm not going for a brand new everything immaculate setup. THIS IS PRACTICE! I mostly want to get my tuning skills up to par.

 

[ohioshodude]

phew lots of nay sayers, man guys give him a break. he's been here long enough to know about the quaife and weak trannies. he wants to play with what he has. i wish you luck friend. i'm looking into supercharging the 91 as well. hopefully i can play too

 

[1slickRED89]

If you do build it, between my dysfunctional SHO and your car, Toledo will be the turbo SHO capital of Ohio. Go Ohio!!!

 

[SHOracer14]

If you do build it, between my dysfunctional SHO and your car, Toledo will be the turbo SHO capital of Ohio. Go Ohio!!!

Holy crap I totally forgot about your car.... when are you available so I can get you that coil pack and take a look at your setup??? I amazingly have Saturday off.

 

[1slickRED89]

Saturday huh, I just so happen to have that day off. might be a nice day for a ride around town in the SHO.

I'd like to see that bitersweet kit too, the pictures he had on ebay may not do it justice.

 

[AREA 91]

At the very least, reinforce your stock diff.

 

[SHOracer14]

At the very least, reinforce your stock diff.

Don't worry Beth has hooked me up in the past so I will probably have her do another one for me.

 

[SHOracer14]

OK, I've been studying many maps over the past couple days but still haven't decided on what to get. Basically it's going to be whats available for cheap and closest to what I want. I also have lots of other decisions to make. I am beginning to think I want to run a DV (diverter valve) instead of a BOV as I hear it works much better on cars with MAF's. With a BOV letting metered air go into the atmosphere I am assuming it would run a bit rich. I think using a DV will make tuning a bit easier. Also, Internal vs. External wastegates... I suppose that decision will be made again depending upon what kind of turbo I can find and if it has an internal or not. Internal will be more cost effect and I planned on using a manual boost controller no matter what. Also, for those of you with turbo setups, are you just tapping the oil pan and running a secondary (inline style) pump for the oil to the turbo? I am going to go with a small intercooler but lt looks as though I will be best to ditch the DSM side-mount and go with a front mount with the inlet and outlet on the same side as it will be much easier for me to plumb. I think I already have a decision on how the exhaust will be setup. Considering the DP I already have is 2.5" and the exhaust I have is 2.5" I'm just gonna connect it to my current catback and then run a dump when I want to get a bit more serious. As far as the turbo goes though it looks like the least expensive and easiest to find are t3/t4's and it looks like something in a "middle of the road" trim level would be optimal for what I want to do. I know there are some tables to figure out what would work best on your vehicle that figures in displacement and many other variations at sea level. Does anyone have a link for those equations?

 

[laxmax327]

when i was planning a turbo instal a t3/t4 was definately the one i was going to get. was recomended to me by many. id go with that, but i just gave up on the project until i have plenty of money. i could do it now, but just barely, and i know things will start breaking and cant afford that right now.