Gauging interest: Methanol injection kit for the SHO

[whitekysho]

As the title states I am interested in making a methanol injection kit for Shos I have a 91, so I know 100% that it will fit gen 1's I will try to find someone to bring me their gen 2. I work for my families company Kentucky Tank www.kentuckytank.com and I can get everything at wholesale and will pass along a lot of the savings to fellow sho owners. It will be a standard kit using the same style pump that cooling mist used to use that is actually approved for methanol contrary to what they say and a 6-quart (1.5 gallon) hdpe tank with a spin fitting far better than tapping the tank. And to keep the fast grocery getter style of the sho I am going to make it mount underneath the rear speakers or off to the side in a vertical configuration to keep as much usable trunk space as possible. I am thinking of a price around 250 shipped.

 

[ultimatesho]

check ur pm's slut

 

[whitekysho]

check ur pm's slut

I am not a slut and that sounds good.

 

[hawkeye18]

ok, :noob: time... what does methanol injection get you?

 

[Mrpeepers]

I am not familiar with methanol injection on a n/a application, but I can say that for forced induction it is definitely something worth looking into.

Meth/water injection allows a cooler than ambient intake aircharge, and slows down the burn in the combustion chamber to near race gas levels. This allows much more boost, timing, and a leaner mixture to be run before detonation or preignition, similar to a race gas tune but much more cost effective. It also has the added benefit of "steam cleaning" your intake tract and combustion chambers of any carbon deposits.

Here is some more info for anyone that is interested:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/wiki/index.php/WaterInjection

 

[Titanium89sho]

I have been researching w/m injection for some time now as I want to up my boost levels. I need a tweecer and wb O2 first though. Awesome writeup in the link .

 

[Storm-Chaser]

A "few" years ago when I was running a 289 with 13.5-to-1 TRW pistons, I tried a number of things including running avgas (aviation 105 "low" lead) and water injection, which allowed for more advanced timing.

While I was running a NA setup (tricked 650 double-pumper, straight-runner intake, .544" lift custom-grind cam), I can tell you that even with the "crude" water injection kits back then, it did make a difference. During the summer it was most noticeable. I last used that kit on my '81 Bronco after rebuilding it with 10.5-to-1 TRWs, mild(er) cam, and 85 Mustang 302 ** heads.

The general premise is, that some of the latent heat of the incoming air/fuel charge, is absorbed by the water as it is vaporized just prior to combustion. This has the effect of reducing the relative amount of temperature increase in the air/fuel charge as the charge is compressed. Essentially any fluid that does not inhibit combustion, will have this effect - with water and methanol being two of the best injection solutions. The water due to the fact that water is an excellent conductor of heat; methanol (while not as good a "heat" conductor) because it directly contributes to combustion and generally increases the octane level of most street corner pump-gas.

Damn, and here I was thinking that you were taking of coming-up with a kit that allows running methanol-/ethanol-based gas . . . .

 

[adidas_kn]

Hmm I'd strongly consider getting one for my upcoming high boost turbo build. Is there anyway to mount it underhood in place of a relocated battery?

 

[whitekysho]

Hmm I'd strongly consider getting one for my upcoming high boost turbo build. Is there anyway to mount it underhood in place of a relocated battery?

Yes, I can put it wherever you like.

 

[hawkeye18]

Yes, I can put it wherever you like.

Really?

 

[whitekysho]

Really?

For the right price...:luvstruk:

 

[Devin]

I thought that water wasn't very compressible, thus the reason to not let it into the combustion chambers?

 

[Storm-Chaser]

That's not the goal using water injection. The goal is to increase the amount of fuel/air that can be packed into the combustion chamber, which increases horsepower produced. One way to increase the amount of fuel/air induced/injected/forced into the cylinders, is to lower the air-charge temperature - which makes the air-charge more "dense" (ie. contains more fuel and air per cubic centimeter of volume).

When the water is injected into the fuel/air charge, it absorbs some of the stored heat contained in the incoming air-charge, as it is converted from a liquid to a vapor (look-up latent heat of vaporization), and in turn lowering the temperature of that air-charge. Hence injecting many types of liquids has the effect of lower the temperature of the incoming air charge.

 

[whitekysho]

I thought that water wasn't very compressible, thus the reason to not let it into the combustion chambers?

I am only going to be injecting 3.0 gallons per hour. The turbo and s/c guys probably double that.

 

[shogansta]

Yea i dont think i would mind having my SHO run on Meth....