error code (tuner installed) and update

[1slickRED89]

does code 511 have anything to do with having a tuner installed? I have that with six other no-problem codes having to do with the deleted EGR and running rich. car has a CEL on due to the rich condition (11-12:1 all the time)

I need a tweecer. bad.

turbo ATX update: the 4 PSI WG spring didn't lower boost enough to eliminate my spark knock. I had what I think is a 17+ psi spring in there so I was sure that was my problem. the wastegate I want is $550, curiously similar the cost of the tweecer, that's another 1.1K tossed in the turbo SHO hole. being that I'm now poor and have to work with what I have, back to tuning square one.

Also I'm going to try one heat range cooler plug, my autolite 3923's already have soot all over them, save for the tip of the insulator. I think that I might be getting PI off of that. (if only I had ionization equipment laying around...)the 3922 may just foul out, but it's a cheap experiment.

 

[nc89sho]

what injectors are you running again??

 

[1slickRED89]

it has new FMS 42lb/hr units with both high and low slope set to 42.000.

I don't know why it runs rich. besides the high and low slope, all I have done is reduce the WOT fuel mutipler to run a bit LEANER at wot as I'm usually around 10-11:1 at WOT.

sometimes it will warm up at 11-12:1 then when I get cruising around the neighbor hood it 'clicks' and runs at 14-15:1, I have the data logs to show that too. it's really weird, I seriously don't know what I did wrong.

 

[SinisterSHO]

IIRC, the 511 code is because of the tuner. I got that code with the LPM and TwEECer.

 

[nc89sho]

so you're running rich but getting spark knock?? that doesn't make any sense. something has to be wrong other than the boost. Pauls car is running 8-10lbs of boost with 30lb injectors and he's not getting any knock at all. You're sure it's spark knock though right? the knock sensor is new?

 

[1slickRED89]

so you're running rich but getting spark knock?? that doesn't make any sense. something has to be wrong other than the boost. Pauls car is running 8-10lbs of boost with 30lb injectors and he's not getting any knock at all. You're sure it's spark knock though right? the knock sensor is new?

right now I'm thinking bad gas, it had an old 1/4 tank that I put 12 gallon of 93 RON on top of. that's the only thing I didn't do, I'll drain the tank and rinse with 93-94 RON next. and get a new boost gauge to verify that variable, I blew up my old one with too much PSI...no joke.

I have a buzzer connected to the break-out-box pin for the knock sensor, so when it activates it buzzes a 103dB horn (with a custom circuit to amplify the signal). the knock sensor is the original one with 94K. however, I know I'm deep into knock county due to the massive torque drop, it should be a rocket at any boost level and it's not, and the buzzer goes off.

 

[Axianator]

does code 511 have anything to do with having a tuner installed? I have that with six other no-problem codes having to do with the deleted EGR and running rich. car has a CEL on due to the rich condition (11-12:1 all the time)

Like Steve said, the 511 DTC is caused by the tuner.

Would it be possible for you to send me a copy of your calibration file?

 

[1slickRED89]

I'm not sure I have your email address to send it to. email me and i'll reply, [email protected]

would I be wrong saying that since code 511 has to do with memory regarding the tuner, and the car is sick rich that perhaps the eec is not loading the program from the tuner? that would explain the richness and the over advanced timing, despite my tuning efforts. mind you the ecc is laying on the pass. side floor with 7 miles of BOB wires running all over.

I'm not buying the first chip available for my jeep liberty CRD like I did for the SHO, I learned my lesson. I'm waiting till April atleast for all the bugs to get worked out. while an extra 40hp and 90lb/ft AND +1-2 MPG right now is tempting, I must digress for a few months.

 

[Axianator]

would I be wrong saying that since code 511 has to do with memory regarding the tuner, and the car is sick rich that perhaps the eec is not loading the program from the tuner? that would explain the richness and the over advanced timing, despite my tuning efforts. mind you the ecc is laying on the pass. side floor with 7 miles of BOB wires running all over.

It's very possible. IIWM, I would remove the break-out box wiring from the loop and return the EEC (with related ScTuner hardware) back to it's factory configuration. I assume you've double-checked the J3 port for both cleaniless and connectivity?

 

[1slickRED89]

j3? not in a while, maybe a year ago. good call and I will do that next.

I can't take out the BOB yet since I must have access to the knock sensor signal, as it is one of my few tuning guides.

 

[1slickRED89]

quick update, I cleaned the J3 and I'm OK there, still have a vss code, but it's no biggie as the charge pipes just bumped plug. not much room for a 2.5" AND a 2" pipe back there, all while allowing for engine movement (not much though, due to my handy ATX engine torque anchor)

I realized one more thing I did wrong, that is not listen to the advice I have recived to the letter. loaded a new program with the spirit of some of past advice and got rid of my knock. that said, it's a dog, I must have spark after TDC at some points...for real. regardless. now I can work up timing slowly rather than be in no-mans-land knock zone.

I found that to trim the base spark table to be dormant by setting all the values to 63, that then after I save and go back, all the cells read 0 (zero) so I set them to 60-79 so that they will always be more than a given value in the BDS table. it worked for me.

I need some 103 RON fuel in a bad way. It's sad because I use hundreds of gallons of it at work (5.4L & 4.6L's are thirsty) and can't take a even pint home.

 

[Axianator]

Glad to hear things are running better with your car, Corey.

FWIW, the ScTuner software will accept a value of 63 in both of the main (Base and Borderline Detonation) spark tables, even after you have saved your calibration changes to a .gui file and uploaded the changes. If you continue to see this type of problem on a regular basis, please let me know and I will add it to the list of future bug fixes.

 

[1slickRED89]

i'll try to duplicate the same problem sometime, but i've got much bigger problems with it now.

I had to drive it to work these last few days till the wife's car got repaired (broken front spring on her jetta). sure enough the springs arrived today, and the Turbo ATX got TAIL-FRIGGEN-ENDED by a huge ford van at a red light. both taillights, bumper, fill panels and some other stuff got messed up bad. thank goodness it missed the muffler and didn't destroy all that hard work.

hopefully the delivery guys insurance is good, if they want to total it out, I may have just to buy it back. it is in EXCELLENT condition.

the carnage:

 

[Speedy_91_SHO]

as long as there is no frame damage, u should be fine...with the parts in hand thats like a 20 min fix.

On another hand...I have a tweecer that I am not currently using since my car is torn apart. You seem like u know what your talking about and what not. Since you are so close, I could let u borrow it to see if u could fix your problem/like the software on it if you would help me tune my car when it comes out in the spring. Let me know...shoot me a PM or something and Ill give you my phone number if u wanna talk about it. Thanks, Chris

 

[rktmn]

Hey slick, I have a green rear bumper cover with no cracks that I need to get rid off. The paint has some scratches. If you are interested I send you some pics.

Jose

 

[1slickRED89]

as long as there is no frame damage, u should be fine...with the parts in hand thats like a 20 min fix.

On another hand...I have a tweecer that I am not currently using since my car is torn apart. You seem like u know what your talking about and what not. Since you are so close, I could let u borrow it to see if u could fix your problem/like the software on it if you would help me tune my car when it comes out in the spring. Let me know...shoot me a PM or something and Ill give you my phone number if u wanna talk about it. Thanks, Chris

thats a deal I can hardly refuse, I'll pm you.

Hey slick, I have a green rear bumper cover with no cracks that I need to get rid off. The paint has some scratches. If you are interested I send you some pics.

Thanks for the offer, but I know shipping will **** me on that from floirda. I will need a new one because the guys licence plate stabed mine, infact his plate was stuck to my car after the crash...wish I have a camera.